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Old 07-16-2021, 01:26 PM   #3193
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We must be moving rather fast at this point. Why can't we feel the wind?
There's no air in space and we are rotating while we accelerate so our actual speed remains constant.

(ps. I know this is ridiculous, I'm just making a point)
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There's no air in space and we are rotating while we accelerate so our actual speed remains constant.

(ps. I know this is ridiculous, I'm just making a point)
But if the earth is flat, what are we rotating about - I guess a flat surface can rotate, but?? How does rotation neutralize acceleration? And those little lights in the sky? No air?? WTF?
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But if the earth is flat, what are we rotating about - I guess a flat surface can rotate, but?? How does rotation neutralize acceleration? And those little lights in the sky? No air?? WTF?
The disk orbits about a fixed point that it is always facing, approximately once every 24 hours, and moves tangential to the acceleration. The little lights move across the sky because of this rotation.
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I do love that movie...
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Nota huge fan. I'll pass on the snozzberries, but thanks.
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Anyway, back to the problem at hand. I know that some of the talking heads are talking about going door-to-door to promote the vaccine. And I know that some other talking heads are coming to insane conclusions such as a method of taking guns and bibles (wut lulz). I will be honest, like other solicitations, I would find that quite annoying. But then again, it might be a cleaver way. It may also make those who are on the fence or against the vaccine even more irritated and or hostile. And apparently they are getting some Gen Z kid I've never heard of to promote getting the vaccine, too.
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London UK, set up drop in centres, anyone can drop by for a jab. No identification required, this is to encourage people who are operating below the radar..
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When looking at daily covid numbers from the new York times I clicked on "about the information ".
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When looking at daily covid numbers from the new York times I clicked on "about the information ".
Not sure what your point is exactly?

My takeaway is that someone could get tested multiple times in the span of a couple days.

i.e. "I feel sick, I hope it isn't COVID, but I'll take a test... Uh oh, it says I'm positive. I'll try to relax and heal on my own... I don't feel any better, I should go to the urgent care/doctor/hospital. Ah they need to test me to make sure I have COVID."

In that case alone there are two "positive tests." And then the person, once admitted, would probably be counted as a "positive case."
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London UK, set up drop in centres, anyone can drop by for a jab. No identification required, this is to encourage people who are operating below the radar..
I'm not sure about the details on personal information, but in a number of places the local authorities have set up drop-in centers. No appointment needed.

I'm skeptical of the efficacy of door to door canvasing as well as positive or negative inducements. I'm still leaning toward analogman's approach. If you show up at the hospital with covid and are unvaccinated you go to the end of the line and will have to pay for treatment out of pocket.

I suspect that will increase the body count among the unvaxed and serve as 1) an object lesson on the costs of pig headedness and 2) provide an incentive for the unvaxed to seek out vaccination.

The unwanted vaccine would be better used if sent to other countries who 1) are in a crisis situation and 2) have populations that want the vaccine. The US is, I think, something of a macrocosim of this board, and as we've seen here, you're wasting your breath trying to shame or persuade these people into doing the right thing.
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I'm not sure about the details on personal information, but in a number of places the local authorities have set up drop-in centers. No appointment needed.

I'm skeptical of the efficacy of door to door canvasing as well as positive or negative inducements. I'm still leaning toward analogman's approach. If you show up at the hospital with covid and are unvaccinated you go to the end of the line and will have to pay for treatment out of pocket.

I suspect that will increase the body count among the unvaxed and serve as 1) an object lesson on the costs of pig headedness and 2) provide an incentive for the unvaxed to seek out vaccination.

The unwanted vaccine would be better used if sent to other countries who 1) are in a crisis situation and 2) have populations that want the vaccine. The US is, I think, something of a macrocosim of this board, and as we've seen here, you're wasting your breath trying to shame or persuade these people into doing the right thing.
Socialized medicine in the US is being uninsured and showing up anyhow. Taxpayers foot the bill, but at much higher rates than if there were insurance for everyone paid with tax dollars...

I think we need to put them in quarantine camps. Separate the kids for their safety.
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I think we need to put them in quarantine camps. Separate the kids for their safety.
Only if you are well and truly destitute. In my part of Texas, if you go to the ER you will likely find that even though the hospital is in network, the ER physicians may not be. You could wind up hit with a $20,000 physician's bill for reinstalling your dislocated shoulder. Your financial condition will be assessed, and if you have a job and/or any assets you will be billed at the private pay rate (2 or more times the insurance rate). You pay it or you'll find yourself changing your phone number, perhaps repeatedly, to hide from the collection agencies they'll loose on you. I've seen it happened to my students, family members, and friends.

If you are insured and the insurer refuses the claim, the provider(s) will again come knocking on your door, hands outstretched, fingers snapping.

If you have anything tangible - these assholes will chase you into bankruptcy.
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