FA20Club Turbo Kit Owners Topic

[crazyfrenchbiker]

Originally Posted by Dan@AWD

If your referring to my kit then it is no longer for sale.

Nothing wrong with these kits. If your looking into a new kit I would recommend the MAPerformance kit. Message me if you want a great price on it or the full blown kit.

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Not yours Dan, but another 1.5. I'm not sure of the rules of BST outside of the classifieds section, so I won't include a link.

Originally Posted by Fear

The kit them selves are fine once they have been fitted on a car, its dealing with delivery and initial fitment.

otherwise i'd say get it cheap used if you can..

In terms of fitment, are we just talking a bit of encouragement with some bending, or rewelding may be required?

Keeping in mind to anyone who responds to my original question, customer service is not expected of FA20Club in any shape or form.

[Model Citizen]

Originally Posted by crazyfrenchbiker

Not yours Dan, but another 1.5. I'm not sure of the rules of BST outside of the classifieds section, so I won't include a link.


In terms of fitment, are we just talking a bit of encouragement with some bending, or rewelding may be required?

Keeping in mind to anyone who responds to my original question, customer service is not expected of FA20Club in any shape or form.

Find the thread by woode on his experience, he pretty much rewelded himself a new kit it was so bad.

Imo considering the sheer amount of good options on the market there is no reason whatsoever to go with this kit.

If a person can't afford a decent kit than they can't afford the reality of modding cars and especially adding fi to na cars, shits going to break, not a question of if, but when.

[Fred E]

Originally Posted by Drewbie

Ok so I am definitely considering this kit for mine.
FA20club just seems awesome to deal with and the performance numbers are great for the money. I'll be happy with 250-300 to the wheels but I'm curious about the ceiling.
The only issue is mine is auto. What do you guys think I could get out of it?
Like the 57 trim with a couple options looks good for me, but if I could get 350+ whp with a bit more money in options and some other mods I'm all for it.
Thanks yall!

Just curious... where exactly did you find the information that led you to believe that "FA20club just seems awesome to deal with"? Certainly not from this forum as the general consensus is quite the contrary...

[Dan@AWD]

Originally Posted by Fred E

Just curious... where exactly did you find the information that let you to believe that "FA20club just seems awesome to deal with"? Certainly not from this forum as the general consensus is quite the contrary...

For the $ this is still probably the best kit out there. BTW, not everyone had a bad experience.

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[Drewbie]

Originally Posted by Fred E

Just curious... where exactly did you find the information that let you to believe that "FA20club just seems awesome to deal with"? Certainly not from this forum as the general consensus is quite the contrary...

Yeah I was reading posts dated a bit earlier and it seemed people who ordered the kit had a pretty long wait and that seemed like the worst of it. In the earlier pages people seemed to be having decent dealings and interactions with them. But most of them were just ordering the kit and installing and tuning elsewhere as I'll be doing with whatever kit I decide on (def not this one now). I mean yeah I made a mistake with half assed research but thankfully people here are considerate and steered me in the right direction.

But I digress.. To answer your question, in the early pages of this forum, most likely before people started seeing their true colors.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Drewbie

Ok so I am definitely considering this kit for mine.
FA20club just seems awesome to deal with and the performance numbers are great for the money. I'll be happy with 250-300 to the wheels but I'm curious about the ceiling.
The only issue is mine is auto. What do you guys think I could get out of it?
Like the 57 trim with a couple options looks good for me, but if I could get 350+ whp with a bit more money in options and some other mods I'm all for it.
Thanks yall!

Let's be honest here. What you liked about FA20Club was the same thing everyone else did months ago, the price. If you are looking to save money, many of the vendors including LJ @FullBlown can put you together a kit with the cheaper T3/T4 57 trim turbo if you would like to go that way.

[Drewbie]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Let's be honest here. What you liked about FA20Club was the same thing everyone else did months ago, the price. If you are looking to save money, many of the vendors including LJ @FullBlown can put you together a kit with the cheaper T3/T4 57 trim turbo if you would like to go that way.

Well yeah, I was looking for the most economical option but I would not have let that come at a loss of a quality product (before I was further educated obviously). Most people are suggesting full blown so I'll probably shoot them an email and see what they'd suggest for me.
Thanks for the tip on other venders though bro. Appreciate it.

[pixel67]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Let's be honest here. What you liked about FA20Club was the same thing everyone else did months ago, the price. If you are looking to save money, many of the vendors including LJ @FullBlown can put you together a kit with the cheaper T3/T4 57 trim turbo if you would like to go that way.

Or you could make me an offer on mine. ☺

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[nelsmar]

Originally Posted by Drewbie

Yeah I was reading posts dated a bit earlier and it seemed people who ordered the kit had a pretty long wait and that seemed like the worst of it. In the earlier pages people seemed to be having decent dealings and interactions with them. But most of them were just ordering the kit and installing and tuning elsewhere as I'll be doing with whatever kit I decide on (def not this one now). I mean yeah I made a mistake with half assed research but thankfully people here are considerate and steered me in the right direction.

But I digress.. To answer your question, in the early pages of this forum, most likely before people started seeing their true colors.

The first kits were made in house. Later they were outsourced over seas and had poor quality control. This is why the first ones worked out. Tuning these from what I have heard is a pita. Some people had to go full time speed density which can end up costing the difference saved in tuning fee alone. JDL has a kit at nearly the same price point as well as speed by design. And as mentioned before full blown has a great kit. The reason this kit was cheap was it came with a cheaper turbo than all the other kits. You could just downgrade the turbo on most of the other kits to get in the same price bracket. That is why JDL started making a cheaper kit with a cheaper turbo.

[ecko04]

There's nothing wrong with buying a used FA20Club kit. All of the installed kits have had whatever fitment issues addressed. Getting a used FA20Club kit would be preferable to a new one IMHO.

If a forum member is selling their kit then I would jump on it. If buying new and trying to stay in the same price range I would go with the JDL or FBM base kits.

The FA20Club main draw was the price point due to the Garrett T3/T4 turbos being offered. Let me say that those turbos are no slouch, they're just the bargain basement selection of the Garrett lineup but they're still Garrett. They're not some garbage turbo but they're not the "best" either.

Personally, I will not buy a thing from FA20Club ever again but other than ship time, I experienced no issues with them. However, I cannot sit by and act as if they didn't mistreat a lot of other people. Shit, I had @Ny Brz's red powder coated 57 trim turbo sitting in my house before he got it which speaks to the incompetence of the shipping process. I probably received my system, due to much pestering, before others that ordered before me. If I had the dough to throw around I would buy another system just to rid myself of the FA20Club stigma but still, as far as functionality and design, there's nothing wrong with the kit (if the fitment issues have been worked out and they have been on installed kits).

[Fear]

Originally Posted by ecko04

There's nothing wrong with buying a used FA20Club kit. All of the installed kits have had whatever fitment issues addressed. Getting a used FA20Club kit would be preferable to a new one IMHO.

If a forum member is selling their kit then I would jump on it. If buying new and trying to stay in the same price range I would go with the JDL or FBM base kits.

The FA20Club main draw was the price point due to the Garrett T3/T4 turbos being offered. Let me say that those turbos are no slouch, they're just the bargain basement selection of the Garrett lineup but they're still Garrett. They're not some garbage turbo but they're not the "best" either.

Personally, I will not buy a thing from FA20Club ever again but other than ship time, I experienced no issues with them. However, I cannot sit by and act as if they didn't mistreat a lot of other people. Shit, I had @Ny Brz's red powder coated 57 trim turbo sitting in my house before he got it which speaks to the incompetence of the shipping process. I probably received my system, due to much pestering, before others that ordered before me. If I had the dough to throw around I would buy another system just to rid myself of the FA20Club stigma but still, as far as functionality and design, there's nothing wrong with the kit (if the fitment issues have been worked out and they have been on installed kits).

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[Admired]

So I was able to make 305 WHP on the dyno with my kit with 93 gas, 450cc injectors and fuel pump. My question is, can more power be generated from this kit because the tune was at 9 psi so I am assuming I can run a higher pressure? Now by doing this, if I were to raise the boost pressure would I need to get it retuned at that pressure or how does this work? My goal is 350+ or 375 if possible. What do I have to do to achieve this? New internals or just increase boost pressure? Thanks guys

[woode]

Originally Posted by Admired

So I was able to make 305 WHP on the dyno with my kit with 93 gas, 450cc injectors and fuel pump. My question is, can more power be generated from this kit because the tune was at 9 psi so I am assuming I can run a higher pressure? Now by doing this, if I were to raise the boost pressure would I need to get it retuned at that pressure or how does this work? My goal is 350+ or 375 if possible. What do I have to do to achieve this? New internals or just increase boost pressure? Thanks guys

The short answer is yes, you can just up the boost (until you run out of fueling.. 450cc injectors are on the small side) and pull timing. You will want it tuned.

The more complicated part is how you drive the car? Are you looking for a trackable 350+ HP? In that case I would look at E85 and/or some new lower compression internals. More boost and pulling timing produces heat, and sustained heat will eat up the motor. I make over 400hp on over 20psi with stock internals on 93, but I also don't track my car. I would almost guarantee that if I tried sustaining that for a few track sessions my engine would be on it's last leg. But for some fun on the highway and back roads it is going on 8000 miles holding up just fine.

[Admired]

Originally Posted by woode

The short answer is yes, you can just up the boost (until you run out of fueling.. 450cc injectors are on the small side) and pull timing. You will want it tuned.

The more complicated part is how you drive the car? Are you looking for a trackable 350+ HP? In that case I would look at E85 and/or some new lower compression internals. More boost and pulling timing produces heat, and sustained heat will eat up the motor. I make over 400hp on over 20psi with stock internals on 93, but I also don't track my car. I would almost guarantee that if I tried sustaining that for a few track sessions my engine would be on it's last leg. But for some fun on the highway and back roads it is going on 8000 miles holding up just fine.

No tracking for the momement, those injectors are capable of fuel fuel up to 500 hp according to the website. Anyway so basically I can just get a retune at a higher boost pressure? I can't just use my boost controller to up the boost, obviously not tuned for that pressure. What is a safe boost pressure I can go up to without new internals? If I did internals, what would be my best investment, pistons, valves, cam?