03-23-2019, 08:11 PM | #57 |
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It was not built to be a contender in the HP wars in 2008 and it won't be in 202?. People that wanted a 2 door WRX/STi will continue to be disappointed and Subaru/Toyota don't care if they are. They are not looking for huge sales and will not change the whole nature of the car to please the "muh horses brah" crowd.
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This thread is still delivering.
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03-23-2019, 10:57 PM | #61 |
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My guess is you'll see something similar to the refresh 2017, if they continue to make it at all.
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Nope. I was quoting in the spirit of conversation. Just elaborating on your HP comment.
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The one thing I ask Toyota to do is to give us a modern 4AGE with 230HP but that's an unrealistic pipe dream, im not a fan of the boxer engine but I still love my 86 regardless.
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My car has about 2 years left before I sell it, currently there isn't alot I would swap it for. Well, not for the budget price the sell the 86 for anyway. Hopefully someone, Toyota, maybe Nissan puts out a small, light, RWD manual NA coupe. Hopefully it doesn't look like that awful concept car. Note to Toyota-dump Subaru.
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Not a Toybaru, a straight up Toyota.
I firmly believe that if the 86 was fully toyota it would have gone down in history like the MX5. Lets see what's available in 2 years time? Disclaimer: Whilst I am harsh with my critique I have enjoyed my experience with my 86. I also acknowledge the reasoning of why Toyota and Subaru penny pinches thought it would be a good idea the collaborate to build a cheap sports car, it's just that I think it's a cop out. At least the Zupra doesn't have a boxer.
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If the 86 was fully Toyota-developed it would never have made it to production. Toyota has no lightweight RWD chassis, no low packaging engine that fits, they have no car with suspension geometry that carries over. Toyota cannot engineer and build this car from scratch for under 30k. The bulk of the miata's engineering was done for the NA, the ND engine is shared more than the old Miata motor to spread development cost and the chassis has been incrementally evolved over 3 decades, and STILL the Miata is more expensive. Without Subaru they would have canned the project because it's not financially viable without an existing platform and hardware to adapt. |
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