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Old 06-09-2014, 11:44 AM   #771
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Despite it being slower by a wide margin I'd take a Cayman GTS over a Z06 almost every time.
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Old 06-09-2014, 01:39 PM   #772
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See, you're basing this strictly on performance. There are many cars that do many things better than the Corvette, but they might not be as good in performance numbers.

I know this is a site for a car that is designated to be a good track car so there will be some bias towards sports cars, but there are plenty of cars that are better and/or I would rather own.
I didn't say what YOUR 10 best cars in the world list has to be based on. I just wanted to see what your list would contain if the Z06 isn't on it.
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So true, vettes have always been "numbers" cars, but generally terrible to live with on a day to day basis.

They're the answer to "how can I go as fast as possible for as little money as possible?" That's not always the question people are asking, sometimes they want refinement, looks, exclusivity, comfort, a decent interior, etc.

Despite it being slower by a wide margin I'd take a Cayman GTS over a Z06 almost every time.
Having owned both a Cayman R and a C6 Z06, I can tell you that I would also select the Cayman GTS over the Z06, but that isn't because it is terrible to live with on a day to day basis, it isn't. It has a relatively large trunk, the seats were comfy, the suspension wasn't too harsh, and it got decent gas mileage. The only downside is that with the really tall gearing and the difficulty of putting 505 rwhp down to the ground, you don't really get to give it the beans in a daily driving situation. If you rev out first gear provided you feather the throttle enough to maintain traction, then you are doing 70 mph. This new Z06 is just going to amplify that.
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Old 06-09-2014, 01:48 PM   #774
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Not to mention that the new z06 has almost 500 lbft at idle.
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Having owned both a Cayman R and a C6 Z06, I can tell you that I would also select the Cayman GTS over the Z06, but that isn't because it is terrible to live with on a day to day basis, it isn't. It has a relatively large trunk, the seats were comfy, the suspension wasn't too harsh, and it got decent gas mileage. The only downside is that with the really tall gearing and the difficulty of putting 505 rwhp down to the ground, you don't really get to give it the beans in a daily driving situation. If you rev out first gear provided you feather the throttle enough to maintain traction, then you are doing 70 mph. This new Z06 is just going to amplify that.
Can you really flog on a Cayman, even a base model, on public roads? Sure, you can hold down the accelerator for longer because it has less power, but the Cayman is already pretty darn fast. There is something to be said for having more power than you can use. I bet it will be a total blast. I bet they'll also end up wrapped around phone poles on a regular basis, just like the other torque monster, the Viper. For the record, a driver did wrap his Viper around a phone pole on my street. On a straight. Hehehe.
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Hmmm... What's #12 and #14 on this list?

http://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-t...times-top-100/
Radicals and Gumpert Apollo are not street legal.
Viper SRT ACR is a cheat. Who put a R compound on a street legal car?

I also expect Z06 Z07 to beat C6 ZR1 time.
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Viper SRT ACR is a cheat. Who put a R compound on a street legal car?
I believe that would be Chevy (among many others), by making the Pilot Sport Cups the factory tire for the ZR1.
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I believe that would be Chevy (among many others), by making the Pilot Sport Cups the factory tire for the ZR1.
Thought they are a touch different from Viper PSSC.
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Radicals and Gumpert Apollo are not street legal.
Viper SRT ACR is a cheat. Who put a R compound on a street legal car?

I also expect Z06 Z07 to beat C6 ZR1 time.
I was posting that in support for the corvette. Just incase that wasn't clear.
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Thought they are a touch different from Viper PSSC.
From what I can find, the Viper that holds the 7:12 on the 'Ring ran Pilot Sport Cups, which are the exact same tires Chevy supplies on the ZR1 (and I have no idea what a "PSSC" is).
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From what I can find, the Viper that holds the 7:12 on the 'Ring ran Pilot Sport Cups, which are the exact same tires Chevy supplies on the ZR1 (and I have no idea what a "PSSC" is).
PSSC. Pilot Super Sport Cups. Viper is Dot R compound, ZR-1 is road legal PSSC Zero Pressure. Not sure how much different.

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PSSC. Pilot Super Sport Cups. Viper is Dot R compound, ZR-1 is road legal PSSC Zero Pressure. Not sure how much different.

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There's no such thing as a pilot super sport cup. The pilot sport cup is the street-legal R comp, used by both the corvette and viper (and an option on the 911 GT3 if I remember right), the pilot sport cup 2 is the band new R comp used by the 918 Spyder for its sub-7min lap of the Ring, and the pilot super sport is the regular summer tire, with a much longer tread life and much better wet performance than the Cups.
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There's no such thing as a pilot super sport cup. The pilot sport cup is the street-legal R comp, used by both the corvette and viper (and an option on the 911 GT3 if I remember right), the pilot sport cup 2 is the band new R comp used by the 918 Spyder for its sub-7min lap of the Ring, and the pilot super sport is the regular summer tire, with a much longer tread life and much better wet performance than the Cups.
Pilot Super Sport Cup ZP in ZR1 is run flat tire not regular tire like Viper.

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