Questions and Discussion on Vortech Supercharging Systems - Page 40 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ft86me · 07-04-2013, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by frX50z

Silly question, but is it safe for DDing?

I heard NA subie motors hate boost.

I really wanna avoid all the headaches I had modding/tuning/dealing with sh!t breaking on the X...

I know thats part of the mod game, but i want a safe plug and play sleeper kit. You'll have my business if that's the case.

i've been dding mine for over a thousand miles and no issues at all and having lots of "fun" with the car. get the right tune and you get the most power and stability. hit up @Rich@ViscontiTuning if you sc.

Pete · 07-04-2013, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by frX50z

Silly question, but is it safe for DDing?

I heard NA subie motors hate boost.

I really wanna avoid all the headaches I had modding/tuning/dealing with sh!t breaking on the X...

I know thats part of the mod game, but i want a safe plug and play sleeper kit. You'll have my business if that's the case.

I have DDed mine for right at 10,000 miles now and haven't had an issue. I just change the oil. I think this kit is good for regular duty because of the reasonable boost at low RPMs, but more serious power is only a downshift away. I don't know that this motor loves boost, but it definitely doesn't hate boost. Mine has sounded happy since I started feeding it compressed air.

And yeah, great sleeper. I think most have heard by now that the FR-S is not a fast car, it always seems like people are shocked when mine isn't slow at all.

Sportsguy83 · 07-04-2013, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frX50z

Silly question, but is it safe for DDing?

I heard NA subie motors hate boost.

I really wanna avoid all the headaches I had modding/tuning/dealing with sh!t breaking on the X...

I know thats part of the mod game, but i want a safe plug and play sleeper kit. You'll have my business if that's the case.

This is a different Subie motor. Its the frist one of the new generation (FA, FB, etc.).

It certainly has shown to like boost so far...

nelsmar · 07-04-2013, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frX50z

Silly question, but is it safe for DDing?

I heard NA subie motors hate boost.

I really wanna avoid all the headaches I had modding/tuning/dealing with sh!t breaking on the X...

I know thats part of the mod game, but i want a safe plug and play sleeper kit. You'll have my business if that's the case.

Give me a few months ill tell ya :P. my ambient temperatures have been at least 95 on every drive for 1,500 miles with 90% of
My miles over 110f ambient, 120-150f pavement temps... This is my daily drive. If my car runs great I would think anyone else running it would. Gem who was previously banned has been daily driving, and tracking his car on even more boost and has been running fine. The proper tune is important. Look into Perrin and or fa20club as alternative aftermarket tuning.

So far the only big difference in maintenance is changing
The superchargers oil, and the belt is harder to get to as it is sandwiched between the supercharger and engine.

ft86me · 07-04-2013, 02:09 PM

i'm going to get a boost gauge very soon and was wondering for those of you that have put one in with the vortech kit, where did you guys tap into for vacuum?

nelsmar · 07-04-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ft86me

i'm going to get a boost gauge very soon and was wondering for those of you that have put one in with the vortech kit, where did you guys tap into for vacuum?

You could just remove the brake
Booster tap that is included and get one with two barbs. As there is already a line going to the bypass valve. That or Y it out.

However you don't really need one to detect over boost as it is a belt driven compressor. Personally I have a p3cars vent guage (fa20club sells them) that replaces the oem driver vent with a half vent / half multi use display. It uses the obd port and just reads the OEM map sensor. No hoses required! I however don't use it for boost reading. Just oil temp but it serves for multiple functions and can be used for diagnostic purposes.

ft86me · 07-04-2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nelsmar

You could just remove the brake
Booster tap that is included and get one with two barbs. As there is already a line going to the bypass valve. That or Y it out.

However you don't really need one to detect over boost as it is a belt driven compressor. Personally I have a p3cars vent guage (fa20club sells them) that replaces the oem driver vent with a half vent / half multi use display. It uses the obd port and just reads the OEM map sensor. No hoses required! I however don't use it for boost reading. Just oil temp but it serves for multiple functions and can be used for diagnostic purposes.

I do understand the sc is belt driven but I want to monitor the boost just in case one day it's not putting out as much as it should. Just want too monitor things. Thanks for the ideas man!!

civicdrivr · 07-05-2013, 01:03 PM

An AFR gauge is much more important IMO. If you want both, there are combo gauges on the market. I have an AEM Failsafe going in once I get all the parts for the Vortech kit.

charged86 · 07-05-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ft86me

I do understand the sc is belt driven but I want to monitor the boost just in case one day it's not putting out as much as it should. Just want too monitor things. Thanks for the ideas man!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

An AFR gauge is much more important IMO. If you want both, there are combo gauges on the market. I have an AEM Failsafe going in once I get all the parts for the Vortech kit.

I teed the line going to the BOV for my auto meter gauge. its cool to have helps me monitor how it idles and if I hit boost cut which I don't after going over my fuel pump install

ft86me · 07-05-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by charged86

I teed the line going to the BOV for my auto meter gauge. its cool to have helps me monitor how it idles and if I hit boost cut which I don't after going over my fuel pump install

Mind if you post a pic?? Thanks man!!

charged86 · 07-05-2013, 04:25 PM

This is the tee provided in kit I followed the vacuum line going to the BoV and teed it again.

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Originally Posted by ft86me

Mind if you post a pic?? Thanks man!!

Tee it here then its a beatch to get it through the big wire harness into the cabin

charged86 · 07-05-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ft86me

Mind if you post a pic?? Thanks man!!

Drilled a 2 1/8 hole at a steep angle to get the gauge here. I did not want a pillar gauge so people don't know I'm boosted.

And yes I made that carbon fiber trim ring.

ft86me · 07-05-2013, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by charged86

Drilled a 2 1/8 hole at a steep angle to get the gauge here. I did not want a pillar gauge so people don't know I'm boosted.

And yes I made that carbon fiber trim ring.

Thanks a bunch dude!! I like where that gauge is. Hmm def a thought!!

Dezoris · 07-05-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ft86me

Thanks a bunch dude!! I like where that gauge is. Hmm def a thought!!

Nice work, what are your boost readings usually under WOT at higher RPM is it typically close to 9?

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