Let's discuss SCCA Stock Class

[Kido1986]

I pushed like a woman who had been in labor for 3 days.

did terrible today but it wasn't completely the car. Tomorrow is what matters though.

I even had the rear 2psi higher

[Aznsky]

so......whiteline vs. hotchkis vs strano?

Seems like strano bar is good for stock class, but if I plan on going to STX in a few years, seems like whiteline is good since it comes with adjustable end links which will be needed when I lower the car.

oh and 20mm vs 22mm??

so many variations!!!

[Kido1986]

I had a much better day today. Stagger the rear pressure 4.5psi higher than front and that allowed a more neutral feeling but it still will push at the limit.

This bar would be better for a RComp car than street tire, I don't run enough tire for this bar.

Placed 2nd against a National winner in someone else's ill-prepared Z06, lost the index to him by .4 Thing rocketed down the one straight we had!

[GTB/ZR-1]

Originally Posted by Kido1986

Placed 2nd against a National winner in someone else's ill-prepared Z06, lost the index to him by .4 Thing rocketed down the one straight we had!

You got 2nd in PAX or RT index? GREAT JOB!

Who was in Vette?

[Sam Strano]

I admit to not having read the entire thread...

I know it's taken a while for me to get this bar mess straightened out. And I sort of bowed to some pressure to get it out to some folks who were really on me. I should have just gone slower but as I'm sure many of you saw in the photo's on the other thread we have the length issue licked. On more bar done on another run is going out to a CA customer to make sure there is no issue there and then 18 more will be bent immediately after we confirm no issue.

Anyway, onto the sizing and all that jazz. I sell Eibach, I sell Hotchkis. I sell Whiteline, so if either you can't wait for my bar any more (I'm trying) or need something in the interim, PLEASE CALL ME. I early on felt 1" was too big with a stock rear bar or with about equal spring rates. Remember I traded a 2012 GTI which I really liked for this car which I never drove for the express purpose of actively figuring this stuff out. And more specifically for autocrossers because we have more specific needs and can't get away with some of the hare-brained crap that the general public might use.

I went 22mm hollow. I tweaked the wall thickness once and stuck with the size. I think it's right for both CS cars for the combination of balance and help with roll stiffness we want. And for those in STX well I know I'm running the bar with a front stiffer setup (most run the opposite) and the car is not pushy (and I'm running less camber than many of you probably will as it's primarily my street car).

[Kido1986]

Originally Posted by GTB/ZR-1

You got 2nd in PAX or RT index? GREAT JOB!

Who was in Vette?

Terry Tabor,i was 2nd in class (RT classes get Eff-ed in PAX, use same multiplier as stock using A6s, so I'll never place well on paper in PAX). Vette had 340tw tires so he was at a disadvantage but the driver... I'm just not quite that good yet haha.

[GTB/ZR-1]

Originally Posted by Kido1986

Terry Tabor,i was 2nd in class (RT classes get Eff-ed in PAX, use same multiplier as stock using A6s, so I'll never place well on paper in PAX). Vette had 340tw tires so he was at a disadvantage but the driver... I'mthough just not quite that good yet haha.

Okay, that's what I thought. Don't beat yourself up, you're still green @ this & Terry's been at it a long time. Us older guys have a LOT of seat time young grasshopper! Lol

[Kido1986]

Originally Posted by GTB/ZR-1

Okay, that's what I thought. Don't beat yourself up, you're still green @ this & Terry's been at it a long time. Us older guys have a LOT of seat time young grasshopper! Lol

Hahah I know. But with the crappy tires the Z06 had, I was hoping to eek a win out of the day. The man is good and I have a lot to learn.

But damn straight-aways made the difference. Without having one, I could have won I feel, even with my inferior skill

Evo school for me up in Dixie; I'm hoping that helps!

[Sam Strano]

Originally Posted by Kido1986

I pushed like a woman who had been in labor for 3 days.

did terrible today but it wasn't completely the car. Tomorrow is what matters though.

I even had the rear 2psi higher

Yup it's too much bar.

[Sam Strano]

Originally Posted by Kido1986

I had a much better day today. Stagger the rear pressure 4.5psi higher than front and that allowed a more neutral feeling but it still will push at the limit.

This bar would be better for a RComp car than street tire, I don't run enough tire for this bar.

Placed 2nd against a National winner in someone else's ill-prepared Z06, lost the index to him by .4 Thing rocketed down the one straight we had!

Yup it's too much bar.... Wait I might have already said that. And actually it'd be worse on an R-comp shod car. Adding grip tightens a car up. These are things I thought about when I decided on what I was going to do. Really.

[Sam Strano]

Originally Posted by Aznsky

so......whiteline vs. hotchkis vs strano?

Seems like strano bar is good for stock class, but if I plan on going to STX in a few years, seems like whiteline is good since it comes with adjustable end links which will be needed when I lower the car.

oh and 20mm vs 22mm??

so many variations!!!

Funny that my car isn't stock... it's on coil-overs and has most of the STX suspension stuff done (not all, it's not my race car... at least not yet).

And who says you need links when you lower the car? My car is lowered with stock links. But not for nothin', but links are gettable without having to buy the heavier solid bar.

[Kido1986]

Originally Posted by Sam Strano

Yup it's too much bar.

Originally Posted by Sam Strano

Yup it's too much bar.... Wait I might have already said that. And actually it'd be worse on an R-comp shod car. Adding grip tightens a car up. These are things I thought about when I decided on what I was going to do. Really.

I knew this wasn't the right bar but I wasn't expecting that haha. I didn't realize that Hotchkis didn't overrate like the others.

Now I need a good bar so I can pull this off to sell

[Sam Strano]

On the way to me tomorrow they are. Should be ready to ship on Monday the 28th.

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WTB: Anbody offloading RTR tires for the new stuff?