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Captain Snooze · 02-17-2013, 06:09 AM

The 2 sets of wheels turned up (thanks Josh). The original 215s went on one set and onto the car a week ago. The other set was shod with Yoko AD08 225s yesterday. I've done a bit over 300 kms on them and I think I'm going to put the original tyres back on.
The "shitty" Prius tyres are more than enough on public roads. Even with all the aids left on the car still allows a bit of slip at the rear when exiting a corner/bend at lowish speeds. Slip equals fun.
As for the AD08s? OMG!! I haven't experimented all that much but according to Mr Android I have pulled 0.63 under brakes and I haven't got the braking sorted yet. Around roundabouts I am asking for trouble with the speed at which the car can corner.
Maybe the engineers/marketing people were right when they said ordinary tyres are more fun.

(Please note: the view and opinions expressed here are not necessarily those held by the President of Cuba)

JDMSushi · 02-19-2013, 03:14 AM

How many km's have you done? They start to get a bit shitty once you get closer to 10,000...

Captain Snooze · 02-19-2013, 04:01 AM

Only 735 kms.
I wasn't reviewing the AD08s in particular, just the fun factor of the original tyres.

JDMSushi · 02-19-2013, 07:11 AM

Haha, just don't push it too hard with TCS off... we've had a few people already write off a few cars.

Captain Snooze · 02-19-2013, 04:23 PM

Yeah, on public roads* I leave all the electronics on. I really like the fact that there is a little bit of slip allowed.

(* 12 more days to first track outing!)

fuddbutter · 02-20-2013, 04:11 PM

I am pretty happy with the stock 17's, i like the amount of slip they have, and for someone to write their car off, to me that sounds like a lack of experience..

02-21-2013, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Yeah, on public roads* I leave all the electronics on. I really like the fact that there is a little bit of slip allowed.

(* 12 more days to first track outing!)

Have you got your brakes on yet?

Captain Snooze · 02-21-2013, 02:36 PM

Yeah they're on the car (they look awesome) but there is a bit of a set back legal wise. Besides DOT approval the Spiegler brake lines meet no other international standard .This means I have to get new stainless lines made up locally to meet ADRs.

I took the car out Uriarra way to bed in the DS2500 pads. After the initial 10 or so runs I started leaning on the brakes. According to Mr Trackmaster I was pulling a bit over 1 g under brakes at times (not for very long). The interesting thing is the temperature strips haven't even registered at their lowest temperature yet (140C). Yeah, I know, public road , nothing over 110km/h, I'm not trying hard enough.

02-21-2013, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Yeah they're on the car (they look awesome) but there is a bit of a set back legal wise. Besides DOT approval the Spiegler brake lines meet no other international standard .This means I have to get new stainless lines made up locally to meet ADRs.

I took the car out Uriarra way to bed in the DS2500 pads. After the initial 10 or so runs I started leaning on the brakes. According to Mr Trackmaster I was pulling a bit over 1 g under brakes at times (not for very long). The interesting thing is the temperature strips haven't even registered at their lowest temperature yet (140C). Yeah, I know, public road , nothing over 110km/h, I'm not trying hard enough.

they look the goods mate, i keep swaying between being a tightass and going wilwoods or just going the ap kit... are the ap brakes noisy?

Captain Snooze · 02-21-2013, 10:25 PM

I have DS2500 pads fitted front and rear. The fronts squeal at low speed.This doesn't bother me as I don't drive around town all that much.The backing shims are installed. I am guessing different pads might sort that out. Btw, I had DS2500 pads fitted to the front of my previous car and there was never a hint of noise from them.

If you were interested in getting the Essex kit I am thinking it might worth while giving Competition Friction a call as they might have ADR compliant lines as part of the kit.

Hopefully I get the new lines Monday and fitted Tuesday.

86drift · 02-21-2013, 10:40 PM

Looking good :-)

I have had people try and tell me that DOT approved OS brake lines are street legal and don't want to believe it when I tell them they are (probably) not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Yeah they're on the car (they look awesome) but there is a bit of a set back legal wise. Besides DOT approval the Spiegler brake lines meet no other international standard .This means I have to get new stainless lines made up locally to meet ADRs.

I took the car out Uriarra way to bed in the DS2500 pads. After the initial 10 or so runs I started leaning on the brakes. According to Mr Trackmaster I was pulling a bit over 1 g under brakes at times (not for very long). The interesting thing is the temperature strips haven't even registered at their lowest temperature yet (140C). Yeah, I know, public road , nothing over 110km/h, I'm not trying hard enough.

t0dd · 02-21-2013, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I have DS2500 pads fitted front and rear. The fronts squeal at low speed.This doesn't bother me as I don't drive around town all that much.The backing shims are installed. I am guessing different pads might sort that out. Btw, I had DS2500 pads fitted to the front of my previous car and there was never a hint of noise from them.

If you were interested in getting the Essex kit I am thinking it might worth while giving Competition Friction a call as they might have ADR compliant lines as part of the kit.

Hopefully I get the new lines Monday and fitted Tuesday.

Do Competition Friction sell the Essex kit locally? I'm looking to buy the sprint kit, was going to bring it back in hand luggage from the US in June coming back from holiday but if i can sort locally with correct brake lines might be easier!

02-21-2013, 11:05 PM

from what I can see a brake line is a very very simple device, what could possibly be different on a ADR and non ADR approved line?

02-21-2013, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t0dd

Do Competition Friction sell the Essex kit locally? I'm looking to buy the sprint kit, was going to bring it back in hand luggage from the US in June coming back from holiday but if i can sort locally with correct brake lines might be easier!

Yep Competition friction here in Canberra or Vsport in NSW (same parent company?) both do it for $2750 inc GST

02-17-2013, 06:09 AM	#1
Captain Snooze Because compromise ® Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Red Herring Location: australia Posts: 7,767 Thanks: 4,021 Thanked 9,455 Times in 4,157 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Tyre Thoughts The 2 sets of wheels turned up (thanks Josh). The original 215s went on one set and onto the car a week ago. The other set was shod with Yoko AD08 225s yesterday. I've done a bit over 300 kms on them and I think I'm going to put the original tyres back on. The "shitty" Prius tyres are more than enough on public roads. Even with all the aids left on the car still allows a bit of slip at the rear when exiting a corner/bend at lowish speeds. Slip equals fun. As for the AD08s? OMG!! I haven't experimented all that much but according to Mr Android I have pulled 0.63 under brakes and I haven't got the braking sorted yet. Around roundabouts I am asking for trouble with the speed at which the car can corner. Maybe the engineers/marketing people were right when they said ordinary tyres are more fun. (Please note: the view and opinions expressed here are not necessarily those held by the President of Cuba)

02-20-2013, 04:11 PM	#6
fuddbutter Potato Farmer Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: #SLOBRZ Location: Melbourne Aust Posts: 787 Thanks: 493 Thanked 247 Times in 152 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I am pretty happy with the stock 17's, i like the amount of slip they have, and for someone to write their car off, to me that sounds like a lack of experience.. __________________ Something something butter.. www.vic86brzclub.com

02-21-2013, 02:36 PM	#8
Captain Snooze Because compromise ® Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Red Herring Location: australia Posts: 7,767 Thanks: 4,021 Thanked 9,455 Times in 4,157 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah they're on the car (they look awesome) but there is a bit of a set back legal wise. Besides DOT approval the Spiegler brake lines meet no other international standard .This means I have to get new stainless lines made up locally to meet ADRs. I took the car out Uriarra way to bed in the DS2500 pads. After the initial 10 or so runs I started leaning on the brakes. According to Mr Trackmaster I was pulling a bit over 1 g under brakes at times (not for very long). The interesting thing is the temperature strips haven't even registered at their lowest temperature yet (140C). Yeah, I know, public road , nothing over 110km/h, I'm not trying hard enough. Attached Images Last edited by Captain Snooze; 02-21-2013 at 03:34 PM.

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02-19-2013, 03:14 AM	#2
JDMSushi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: JDM86 Location: Sydney Posts: 223 Thanks: 81 Thanked 50 Times in 30 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How many km's have you done? They start to get a bit shitty once you get closer to 10,000...

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Captain Snooze Because compromise ® Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Red Herring Location: australia Posts: 7,767 Thanks: 4,021 Thanked 9,455 Times in 4,157 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Only 735 kms. I wasn't reviewing the AD08s in particular, just the fun factor of the original tyres.

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JDMSushi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: JDM86 Location: Sydney Posts: 223 Thanks: 81 Thanked 50 Times in 30 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Haha, just don't push it too hard with TCS off... we've had a few people already write off a few cars.

02-19-2013, 04:23 PM	#5
Captain Snooze Because compromise ® Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Red Herring Location: australia Posts: 7,767 Thanks: 4,021 Thanked 9,455 Times in 4,157 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah, on public roads* I leave all the electronics on. I really like the fact that there is a little bit of slip allowed. (* 12 more days to first track outing!)

02-21-2013, 10:25 PM	#10
Captain Snooze Because compromise ® Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Red Herring Location: australia Posts: 7,767 Thanks: 4,021 Thanked 9,455 Times in 4,157 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have DS2500 pads fitted front and rear. The fronts squeal at low speed.This doesn't bother me as I don't drive around town all that much.The backing shims are installed. I am guessing different pads might sort that out. Btw, I had DS2500 pads fitted to the front of my previous car and there was never a hint of noise from them. If you were interested in getting the Essex kit I am thinking it might worth while giving Competition Friction a call as they might have ADR compliant lines as part of the kit. Hopefully I get the new lines Monday and fitted Tuesday.

02-21-2013, 11:05 PM	#13
Paragon Guest Posts: n/a Mentioned: Post(s) Tagged: Thread(s)	from what I can see a brake line is a very very simple device, what could possibly be different on a ADR and non ADR approved line?

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