New Rumor: Subaru Developing Turbo 4 2.0T for BRZ

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by Ground N Pound

+1 to what TheRipler said. Nobody is that stupid to confirm that a BRZ / FR-S turbo is coming when they're trying to sell as many current models as possible.

Hyundai announced the Turbo Veloster around the time the N/A Veloster (or maybe even before) it launched. Hyundai isn't stupid.

[xwd]

Yeah, there is nothing confirmed at all at this point, period.

And the engine isn't new at all like others have said.

[Circuit Motorsports]

It would be awesome if they did put this in a future STi BRZ version, but I doubt it will happen.

[Ground N Pound]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

Hyundai announced the Turbo Veloster around the time the N/A Veloster (or maybe even before) it launched. Hyundai isn't stupid.

So? That's Hyundai. Different manufacturers have different policies / strategies when it comes to this stuff.

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by Ground N Pound

+1 to what TheRipler said. Nobody is that stupid to confirm that a BRZ / FR-S turbo is coming when they're trying to sell as many current models as possible.

Said so by Tada himself. This car was a blank canvas for everyone, its the purpose of the car. Toyota does not need to make money like we think they do. The sales are over exceeding what they imagined and its the 1st year in and it's still NA.

I am confident it will eventually come, but by that time there will be plenty Superchargers/Turbochargers already out in the market. An OEM option is the safest route when it comes to warranty.

[TheRipler]

Originally Posted by Ground N Pound

So? That's Hyundai. Different manufacturers have different policies / strategies when it comes to this stuff.

Let's just say that Subaru has screwed with me like this before.

If they don't come out with a turbo BRZ, they will never sell me a 4th Subaru!

[jpit]

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...e-works-report

[jarviz]

Originally Posted by El_STiG

do I hear a $30K price tag?

that still sounds like a pretty good deal...

[Beyer Subaru]

So that is to say that the STi BRZ would have a ratio of .1 Hp/Weight.

This would be beyond supercar territory.

Saleen S7 = .254
Carrera GT = .198
599 = .166
SLR McLaren = .164
Etc, etc..

I'm calling shenanigans. Another slow news day equals a rediculous article.

[nedmundo]

I figured Subaru's 1.6 liter DI turbo might be more likely for the BRZ, because, all else being equal, a smaller displacement engine should fit more easily. I know this has been posted before, but:

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...r-engines.html

BTW, I wouldn't take the "no turbo ever" statements too seriously.

[jesperswe]

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...r-engines.html

Hey, why didn't my FA20 come with all those shiny things on??!

[Superhatch]

It does make sense that Subaru would be turning back to their 2.0L engines to replace their 2.5 linup aside from their heavier vehicles, specifically because of the mpg gains. If they can drop the 2.5 and bump up their entire Impreza / Legacy line 3-4mpg it would be a significant fleet mpg improvement.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by Dorb

I imagine if you already have a BRZ you really do not want to hear any of this Turbo stuff at all.

Actually it makes me want one NA and one turbo'd

Originally Posted by Kimsey47

I thought the BRZ was a little underpowered till I was able to go storm some of the TN mountain roads... I'm happy with her as-is with no boost! Rear end came around when she needed to and made it a blast of a trip!

Yep the car's a little light on torque, but if you're willing to run the engine hard and downshift, it's got about the right amount of power for "spirited" daily driving and fun on backroads.

Originally Posted by Beyer Subaru

So that is to say that the STi BRZ would have a ratio of .1 Hp/Weight.

This would be beyond supercar territory.

Saleen S7 = .254
Carrera GT = .198
599 = .166
SLR McLaren = .164
Etc, etc..

I'm calling shenanigans. Another slow news day equals a rediculous article.

Eh your math is a bit off.

Saleen S7 = 2750 lbs / 750 hp = 3.7 lbs/hp
CGT = 3000 lbs / 612 hp = 4.9 lbs/hp
599 = 3721 lbs / 612 hp = 6.08 lbs/hp
SLR Mclaren = 3900 lbs / 619 hp = 6.3 lbs/hp

BRZ-T = 2800 lbs / 280 hp = 10.0 lbs/hp

So the BRZ-T wouldn't be anywhere near supercar power-to-weight, closer to 370z actually:

370z = 3232 lbs / 332 hp = 9.7 lbs/hp

[Turbowned]

Originally Posted by Superhatch

It does make sense that Subaru would be turning back to their 2.0L engines to replace their 2.5 linup aside from their heavier vehicles, specifically because of the mpg gains. If they can drop the 2.5 and bump up their entire Impreza / Legacy line 3-4mpg it would be a significant fleet mpg improvement.

Well the Impreza is doing up to 36mpg with it's 2.0i with CVT, and the Legacy is managing 32mpg with it's 2.5i with CVT. The only vehicle they need to bring up to speed now is the Forester with it's archaic 4spd automatic, at a max of 27mpg and bump the 3.6R's economy up, or drop back down to a 3.0 with CVT or something. I actually kinda hope the new WRX/STi is a 2.0L turbo like the Japanese cars have been all along. With direct injection and turbo they could finally get out of the low 20's for fuel economy.