2020 Toyota GR Supra Revealed!

[BA9092]

Originally Posted by Red-86

I’m amazed at how people can make boring videos about what should be exciting sportscars... yay, let’s highlight and gush about... lane keep assist? Such technology (that you get in a Kia econobox these days). LMAO.

Right?

I'm all for the thorough, knowledgeable and informative reviews. Even if some of them sound like a mad scientist or have an overly enthusiastic 3am-infomercial tone.

Most of these young influencers are just getting rich off their own clickbait products. I mean, how can you not care whether you got the Base or Premium model when you went in to buy the car? How are you going to "learn" all this new stuff AFTER your purchase? And not knowing what "extra stuff" came in the trunk? Really? I usually do months of extensive research before buying a car and know EXACTLY what I'm getting before I even walk into a dealer so I'm usually (and ironically) more knowledgeable about the car than the sales manager. Lol.

I guess some people are lucky enough to just blow through money not caring about that stuff.

[gymratter]

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Red-86

yay, let’s highlight and gush about... lane keep assist? Such technology (that you get in a Kia econobox these days). LMAO.

Can I pay extra to not have that?

[BA9092]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Can I pay extra to not have that?

It's part of an array of safety features, but I think you can disable it in the "iDrive" menu.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by BA9092

It's part of an array of safety features, but I think you can disable it in the "iDrive" menu.

Yeah. I'd rather they just not be there at all. Like the AWD system in the new M5. "bUt YoU cAn TuRn It OfF" Turning it off doesn't remove any of the mass.

[BA9092]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Yeah. I'd rather they just not be there at all. Like the AWD system in the new M5. "bUt YoU cAn TuRn It OfF" Turning it off doesn't remove any of the mass.

True. Good point. You'd think the M cars would be left alone with RWD only and give the X-drive options to the lower models.

But a majority of mandated and standard safety-related features will always increase along with the extra accompanied weight. That's just evolutionary, thanks to NHTSA, IIHS and the increasing trend of distracted driving (phones, food, misbehaving kids, etc.)

[gymratter]

[BA9092]

Originally Posted by gymratter

I can't watch his videos. He looks like Dennis Hopper...who took a whole bunch of coke.

[LancePower]

Originally Posted by BA9092

I can't watch his videos. He looks like Dennis Hopper...who took a whole bunch of coke.

So you mean...........Dennis Hopper.

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Can I pay extra to not have that?

LOL, I feel the same way. Whilst on one hand, I can see how this tech might help prevent some accidents by inattentive or lazy drivers, I just don’t need or want it, especially in a sportscar. Extra weight, complexity, and cost.

The only safety features I want or need in a modern sportscar are ABS, TC I can switch off when desired, and a reversing camera is handy given how bad rear visibility can be in modern cars. The 86 got this pretty right in this regard.

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by gymratter

Did Scotty just claim the Z4 has two turbos vs one on the Supra? Really? This mechanic for decades didn’t realise (or didn’t bother to research) the B58 in both cars has the same *twin scroll* turbocharger? There are minor parts differences between them, but it ain’t single turbo vs twin turbos!

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by BA9092

True. Good point. You'd think the M cars would be left alone with RWD only and give the X-drive options to the lower models.

The M cars just keep getting fatter, and X-drive isn’t helping. To compensate for the added weight, they just keep adding power, which then reinforces the need for AWD to put the power down. Makes them quicker 0-100 and in the 1/4, but doesn’t make them handle better or make them more fun. It’s the reason many, including Chris Harris, consider the M2 the best current M car, because its the lightest, simplest, and purest.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Red-86

The M cars just keep getting fatter, and X-drive isn’t helping. To compensate for the added weight, they just keep adding power, which then reinforces the need for AWD to put the power down. Makes them quicker 0-100 and in the 1/4, but doesn’t make them handle better or make them more fun. It’s the reason many, including Chris Harris, consider the M2 the best current M car, because its the lightest, simplest, and purest.

It isn’t the lightest.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

It isn’t the lightest.

Which one is?