valve spring issue?

[ermax]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

There were more than twice as many FRS's built than BRZs. it would be expected that there would be more failures after the work. There have been 3 catastrophic failures reported here so a BRZ is statically due any time now.

Wow I didn’t realize there was such a big discrepancy on sales in the first year. That explains a lot then.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by slizoth

The mechanics are identical, unless Toyota has different standards for Technicians than Subuaru I think it's more likely there are just more FRS vehicles out there than BRZ.

Well Subaru has a few cars with the FA20 where as Toyota just has one. So you would expect a Subaru tech to be a little more knowledgeable on the engine. Although I doubt even at Subaru they spend much time rebuilding FA20s. But I agree the failures are probably bias on this forum due to the number of FRS’ sold.

[ermax]

I’m just hoping these people with bearing failures get taken care of. I rebuilt my engine about 7500 miles ago and it’s running fine but I bet if I get the recall done and it goes badly they will point their finger at me for doing my own rebuild. Or they could pull the old, “we don’t have oil change records for your car” scam.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by alan.chalkley

Has anyone done a base dyno before the valve spring recall work and then afterwards , to check if the new springs provide less power?
Just my ocd brain working , instead of sleeping!

You needed that!





humfrz

[BRZnut]

Originally Posted by ermax

There are 3 or 4 threads going where people have reported bearings going. If I recall there are a total of 5 reported. I could be wrong, id have to dig through the 4000 recall threads to be sure. But yeah I realize people aren’t reporting the good rebuilds I am simply saying we only saw one guy on the forum over many years report broken spring yet here we have 3 (going with your number to be conservative) report post recall bearing issues in just a few weeks. My point is statistically it seems they’ve created a bigger risk to the customers while shifting the liability to the dealers. But without real numbers you can’t be sure.

Ya, we need a sticky thread where those that have failures after the recall work can post what happened so that we can keep a running tab! Can someone do that?

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Yes that is an excellent point as well!

Also, with Subaru they have more cars in total involved in the recall so it is very possible the BRZ work isn't being done as quickly and we wouldn't see the other model failures on here.

In the end though I would think at this point if there was a high failure rate on the repairs, there would have been a stop work order put out until it was determined the cause.

It's also possible we've heard from everyone that had a failure, but that seems unlikely.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by BRZnut

Ya, we need a sticky thread where those that have failures after the recall work can post what happened so that we can keep a running tab! Can someone do that?

Why? What would it prove? To track failures without knowing the number of successes is dirty data. It is worse than meaningless since it does not consider all the possibilities. Even if we could track the failures vs the successes on here it would still be meaningless since we are just too small a sample size to compile any form of accurate statistics.
It is indisputable that there have been some problems but to emphasize those issues while ignoring the successes is nothing but fear mongering and irresponsible.
Everybody needs to just take a step back, take a big breath and relax. Going on a quest to find issues only will result in finding only the issues and not the reality of the situation.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Also, with Subaru they have more cars in total involved in the recall so it is very possible the BRZ work isn't being done as quickly and we wouldn't see the other model failures on here.

In the end though I would think at this point if there was a high failure rate on the repairs, there would have been a stop work order put out until it was determined the cause.

It's also possible we've heard from everyone that had a failure, but that seems unlikely.

Yep! As much as so many on here would like to think they know more about doing business than Toyota and Subaru the companies know what they are doing. The recall is already costing them $450 MILLION and they are not going to force that cost up by having to replace engines in every 10 cars or so.
Like all car forums there will always be a bunch running around screaming that the sky is falling because a drop of rain fell close to them.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Also, with Subaru they have more cars in total involved in the recall so it is very possible the BRZ work isn't being done as quickly and we wouldn't see the other model failures on here.

In the end though I would think at this point if there was a high failure rate on the repairs, there would have been a stop work order put out until it was determined the cause.

It's also possible we've heard from everyone that had a failure, but that seems unlikely.

Rumor is some dealers have put their own stop order in the repair.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ermax

Rumor is some dealers have put their own stop order in the repair.

It would be the prudent thing to do if the dealer is aware of the failures and still have several cars to do.

[200hp/tonne]

less than 2 weeks and less than 200 miles after the recall, my engine has seized and refuses to rotate. Car has been sent to the local dealer today to figure out what happened

[ermax]

Originally Posted by 200hp/tonne

less than 2 weeks and less than 200 miles after the recall, my engine has seized and refuses to rotate. Car has been sent to the local dealer today to figure out what happened

I see you have some mods. It will be interesting to see if the dealer tries to blame the mods.

Good luck!

[Dadhawk]

Seems like we need a "condolences" button rather than a "thanks" at times.

[bcj]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Seems like we need a "condolences" button rather than a "thanks" at times.

Reeses "Sorry, not sorry!" too for completeness?