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Old 11-06-2018, 03:29 PM   #43
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More telescoping on the steering wheel.
Lumbar support for the seats.
Ditch the center console cup-holders and give us a factory height adjustable arm-rest/closed console lid that hinges from the back.
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:45 PM   #44
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I would like an OEM rear seat delete option similar to how the 350Z rear seat space is set up. Some storage, couple of speakers, maybe a subwoofer option.


now that is a good one
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Old 12-18-2018, 08:39 PM   #45
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personally I wish the traction/VSC modes (mainly the off mode) stay on each time the car starts up.
...and then in some cases the owner or 2nd driver gets in the car after not driving it for XX days, or weeks (holiday/business trip/not primary driver), goes for drive, forgets/doesn't see traction control being off, encounters bad road conditions, loses control and wrecks.

yes, bad example, but not far fetched.

Customer tries to blame Toyota/Subaru for not making a safe car or ESC that would save them from the situation to only then find out the customer (other driver) turned the system off XX days in the past, never turned it back on and realizes it's their fault, not Toyota/Subaru.

throw injury or death into this situation and it becomes really messy.

with a system that resets/defaults to always on when the car is started is there for the driver's safety and in some ways absolve toyota/Subaru from fault as the driver has to make a conscious effort to turn the system off.

If you're not one for safety systems, the Carrera GT is out there.
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Old 12-18-2018, 08:59 PM   #46
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...and then in some cases the owner or 2nd driver gets in the car after not driving it for XX days, or weeks (holiday/business trip/not primary driver), goes for drive, forgets/doesn't see traction control being off, encounters bad road conditions, loses control and wrecks.

yes, bad example, but not far fetched.

Customer tries to blame Toyota/Subaru for not making a safe car or ESC that would save them from the situation to only then find out the customer (other driver) turned the system off XX days in the past, never turned it back on and realizes it's their fault, not Toyota/Subaru.

throw injury or death into this situation and it becomes really messy.

with a system that resets/defaults to always on when the car is started is there for the driver's safety and in some ways absolve toyota/Subaru from fault as the driver has to make a conscious effort to turn the system off.

If you're not one for safety systems, the Carrera GT is out there.
it is pretty obvious when you see the TC/VSC lights come up next to the tach so bad example or not, you're pandering to the PC/snowflake generation...regardless, holding the TC button doesn't completely turn off your nannies anyways. At the end of the day, the driver still has to initiate shutting it off..the fact that there are cars out there that allow some settings to be retained after a vehicle is restarted should be evidence enough. If I forgot I left my stick in a gear when I start my car up and if that caused me to crash, can I sue Toyota for not making it "more" obvious?
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it is pretty obvious when you see the TC/VSC lights come up next to the tach so bad example or not, you're pandering to the PC/snowflake generation...regardless, holding the TC button doesn't completely turn off your nannies anyways. At the end of the day, the driver still has to initiate shutting it off..the fact that there are cars out there that allow some settings to be retained after a vehicle is restarted should be evidence enough. If I forgot I left my stick in a gear when I start my car up and if that caused me to crash, can I sue Toyota for not making it "more" obvious?
Car won't start without pressing clutch, whether it's in gear or not.

They need all the nannies to achieve the 5 star safety rating, be it ANCAP, Euro NCAP or NHTSA.

In the end it's easy enough to defeat the nannies if you want.

Some niche manufacturer will drop safety ratings, because it isnt going to effect the sales.

Look at the Jeep Wrangler and Ford Mustang for cars that score poorly, hell, the Jeep scores a 1.

Same for super cheap budget cars, the Fiat Panda scores a big far 0.

The twins are a budget sports car with a 5 star rating, mums and dads are happy to buy one for their kids, if they weren't 5 star, they wouldn't sell as many.

Big kids, me included, can just take that couple of seconds to set up their car, In the knowledge that when the kids borrow it, it has reset and all the safety features are enabled.

Disabling safety features is a real first world problem.
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And would be nicer not to have the 80's orange clock
I love the clock, it's part of the charm lol..... my dad's 92 corolla has exactly same clock. Reminds me all the time i had to be sitting in the back as a kid.......



I wish the older car can somehow retro fit the track mode on the newer car....
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:34 PM   #49
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I love the clock, it's part of the charm lol..... my dad's 92 corolla has exactly same clock.
Precisely what (for me) makes the 86-platform great, i.e. it's a modern* throwback**.

*New, safe, reliable.
**Every drive reminds of all the small, lightweight, low-power RWD vehicles I've enjoyed in the past (70s-90s), w/o all the hassles of dealing with an older car.
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Oil temperature and pressure gauges. That's basically it.
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Precisely what (for me) makes the 86-platform great, i.e. it's a modern* throwback**.

*New, safe, reliable.
**Every drive reminds of all the small, lightweight, low-power RWD vehicles I've enjoyed in the past (70s-90s), w/o all the hassles of dealing with an older car.
My dad actually still has the corolla. Damn thing wont quit working they just replaced the engine mount cause it was totally out & the whole car shakes like crazy.

Wish same thing can be said about today's car....or even our twins. Twins are plagued with leaky timing cover.... & will happen sooner or later.

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Old 12-19-2018, 08:49 PM   #52
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< snip > And would be nicer not to have the 80's orange clock < snip >
I have an interesting problem with reading the clock when wearing my sunglasses. I have Polarized clip-ons for my eye glasses. When I look at the clock I can only see the top half of the numbers. If I tilt my head to the right I can't see any numbers. But if I tilt my head to the left, (or take off my sun glasses) I can read the numbers fine.
I've known from an early age that if you tilt polarized glasses one way they get darker and the other way they'll get lighter. Never had this issue with any other digital or analog instrument before though.
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Oil temperature and pressure gauges. That's basically it.


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I love the interior as is! If I could add anything it would be more carbon fiber touches! (Steering wheel, trim pieces, etc..).
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