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10-23-2018, 11:50 AM | #15 | |
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I actually took a stock 2014 out for a test drive at the beginning of this year specifically to compare my ride quality to stock (I have KW V3 suspension), and was pleased to find that the overall ride was stock-like, even with the 18s. However, while the coilovers still did a great job of ironing out bumps in the road for a similar-to-OEM feel, the 18s, coupled with my camber plates, still mean that vibrations and small road imperfections are more noticeable. So the overall ride is similar to OEM, but with an increase in vibrations and "road noise" transmitted into the cabin. So basically what I'm getting at is... you're weird. Lol. :P
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10-23-2018, 12:08 PM | #17 | |
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So, to answer your initial question with this in mind, I stick with my original suggestion. Sound deadening can help quiet down the interior, which will make the car feel a bit more comfortable, even if it doesn't directly change how it handles. Beyond that, the things that you enjoy about your new setup are also things that lead to what you don't enjoy; impact harshness and vibration. It's hard to decouple the two. Other than getting softer-riding coilovers that help absorb impacts, there isn't much else you can do. That's the tradeoff you get for a more "visceral" driving experience. When you hit a bump, the tire is the first point of absorption. You've gone from 17s to 18s, so in that department you've made things worse. Then there is the suspension itself. You can try softer coilovers if yours are stiff. That will definitely help. You can also play with swaybars to try to further decouple the left and right wheels, which will help improve ride quality, but you're going to get more body roll. A little bit more roll might be acceptable to you depending on your use case. After that, impacts are transmitted through bushings to the body. Camber plates mean your suspension is bolted straight to the body, metal-to-metal, without any rubber in between. Depending on what camber you run, you might be able to revert to stock top hats front and/or rear to reduce the NVH. Beyond that, all you can do is add some sound deadening. At the end of the day, you are trying to decouple two things that are inherently linked together. OEMs spend many millions of dollars trying to improve handling feel without decreasing ride comfort, and it is REALLY hard to do. The latest Aston Martin is getting dinged for that one, for example. It's a big part of why supercars have such fancy, and obscenely expensive, suspension components.
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10-23-2018, 12:34 PM | #19 | |
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http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/fort...l#.W89MJ1VKii4 It sounds like it might help. What do you think? As for sway bars, I really dislike roll, plus I hear they can make the car twitchy on the limit, which is scary to me and the #1 reason why I got rid of the OEM tires after a week of driving on them. Also don't know what the heck these are but they look interesting. http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/powe...l#.W89NYVVKii4
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Those bearing caps might be useful if that is one of the sounds you are experiencing. I don't have that issue with my coilovers, but I'm running Raceseng Camber plates which have pretty beefy bearings in them.
The other part you linked to provides holes for a rear brace that would go just above the rear seats. That brace might in theory help with any squeaks and rattles by strengthening the rear area of the body, but I don't know how much of an effect it really has on our cars. On my old Outback, a rear strut tower brace made a HUGE improvement to NVH by eliminating a lot of creaks and rattles. But that was on a 15-year-old station wagon with a tired body that I had put massive swaybars on, so there was a LOT of body flex - especially since wagons are an inherently less stiff structure.
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I think you have those parts already... They look like OEM interior parts to me. (with a hole) Thanks for he link!! Ordered the roller upgrade!
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Mostly a daily driver, so I would like more comfort than the ones I currently have can provide, but not be wallowy and super soft. Still want that direct feeling to remain
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There is a thread... Ohlins Vs KW3's. In that price range, these are the coils, IMO, you should be considering, not those Blitz coils. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130755 Also these new ones from Racecomp look like a lower cost option for DD. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129366
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They are very comfortable, especially with the high-speed bypass valve, which is basically a separate valve that opens when you hit a relatively hard bump, to help absorb the impact. They also have slotted holes up front where the steering knuckle bolts up to the strut body, allowing you to dial in a bit of camber without the need for camber plates. I run the stock top hats on the rear, which is what I would suggest you do, but you could ALSO run the stock top hats up front if you aren't looking for a TON of camber. That would do a LOT to help reduce NVH, and won't add much "slop" in the suspension. I think that alone would probably significantly improve ride quality, but I'm unfamiliar with the MeisterR ZetaCRD coilovers you currently have on your car, so I'm not sure how comfy they are. Here is a link to the KW V3s, which are right in your price range based on the link you provided earlier. http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/kw-c...l#.W89TnVVKhhE
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What amount of camber are you running at the front? I honestly would recommend staying with OEM top hats up front too if you can get away with it. It will really help with the NVH.
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