Terrible Resale Value?

[MRCA1ST]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I think a lot of people will always associate the 2G eclipse with the original Fast and Furious.

But since they obviously require more than $100k under the hood to beat a boosted-sprayed 4-door FWD Jetta in the 1/4mi, they haven't held on like the S2000 which could easily handle the same VW (maybe with only 5 figures under the hood if you turn your own wrench)

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I think the 86 is infamous in modern car culture. Some people love it, and some people love to hate it, but it usually always generates some kind of emotional response from car enthusiasts. You can't say that about a lot of cars today. For that reason I think clean 86s will hold its value better than cars like the Genesis Coupe, Focus ST, GTI, and 370Z.

I do think it will do better than the cars you listed, on the "special spectrum" which IMO ranges from the NSX all the way to the Veloster Turbo, we are definitely on the NSX side of the equation, but still short of the FD rx7, TT Supra, S2000, etc

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by MRCA1ST

But since they obviously require more than $100k under the hood to beat a boosted-sprayed 4-door FWD Jetta in the 1/4mi, they haven't held on like the S2000 which could easily handle the same VW (maybe with only 5 figures under the hood if you turn your own wrench)

That's only because the eclipse in the movie had the crappy 420a. If it was a real GSX it would smoke the competition for less.

[MRCA1ST]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

That's only because the eclipse in the movie had the crappy 420a. If it was a real GSX it would smoke the competition for less.

I never noticed it wasn't a 4G63 - just figured it was a GS-T...standalone fuel management though...

[MRCA1ST]

not seeing where they squeezed in the T4 turbo...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by MRCA1ST

not seeing where they squeezed in the T4 turbo...

Half the cars used didn't even have calipers so trying to discuss real world performance based on any car featured in the movies is a total waste of time.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by MRCA1ST

But since they obviously require more than $100k under the hood to beat a boosted-sprayed 4-door FWD Jetta in the 1/4mi, they haven't held on like the S2000 which could easily handle the same VW (maybe with only 5 figures under the hood if you turn your own wrench)

How do you figure it would cost that? Back in the day there were guys pushing 400HP that would smoke a Jetta with under $10K investment.

[MRCA1ST]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Half the cars used didn't even have calipers so trying to discuss real world performance based on any car featured in the movies is a total waste of time.

that is awesome. I know a magazine actually did head to head comparison of the functioning versions of a bunch of the cars from the first movie, they all had issues and ran slower 0-60 and 1/4mi than the stock versions of themselves.

[MRCA1ST]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

How do you figure it would cost that? Back in the day there were guys pushing 400HP that would smoke a Jetta with under $10K investment.

I was being facetious - basing my math on the "he's got $100k under that (S2000) hood" comment in the racewars scene.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by MRCA1ST

I was being facetious - basing my math on the "he's got $100k under that (S2000) hood" comment in the racewars scene.

LOL Ok I missed that. I was truly baffled.


My poor old battered and worn out 91, Talon, TSi, AWD went onto a better life when I sold it in 2000. The guy that bought it had a side business that did nothing but turn first gen DSMs into drag cars. Last I heard (about 5 years back) was that the old girl was running around 700HP and winning many a race. Now, about all that was left from my car was the block and the shell but it still felt good to know she didn't go to the scrap heap.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

LOL Ok I missed that. I was truly baffled.


My poor old battered and worn out 91, Talon, TSi, AWD went onto a better life when I sold it in 2000. The guy that bought it had a side business that did nothing but turn first gen DSMs into drag cars. Last I heard (about 5 years back) was that the old girl was running around 700HP and winning many a race. Now, about all that was left from my car was the block and the shell but it still felt good to know she didn't go to the scrap heap.

The last "hot lava" car that Tcoat .... used up .....


humfrz

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by humfrz

The last "hot lava" car that Tcoat .... used up .....


humfrz

Hey it was in slightly better shape than that. I meant after he turned it into a drag car that was ll that was left.

[pkolanko]

Based on my research, there were a total of 40k or so BRZs sold since release... I don't see how this is a "high volume" car by any means. Almost 100k mustangs get sold each year. I still see it as a low volume car. I had a 2007 S2K and in 2011-2012 you could get one for like $10k because no one wanted one. Now, they are the ultimate roadster commanding full retail pricing. There will be a curve on the BRZ, but I think it will slowly go up after time has passed.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by pkolanko

Based on my research, there were a total of 40k or so BRZs sold since release... I don't see how this is a "high volume" car by any means. Almost 100k mustangs get sold each year. I still see it as a low volume car. I had a 2007 S2K and in 2011-2012 you could get one for like $10k because no one wanted one. Now, they are the ultimate roadster commanding full retail pricing. There will be a curve on the BRZ, but I think it will slowly go up after time has passed.

That can only hold true if they stop making them relatively soon. Otherwise, there will be more of them than people who want a 10 year old mass produced car. Miatas are real cheap.

[mattyice]

I'm calling it right now, the Hyper Blue BRZ and the FRS RS1.0 will be THE collector cars of the 86.