2018 BRZ tS - The Thread for Potential Owners

[NCtoBRZ]

Originally Posted by e30kawi

I know it's probably not a huge concern for most, but what's the real world mpg's for these?

There are multiple ts's at dealers here in Texas, or so it seems. But I was showing my wife what I wanted, limited with pp but she is pushing me to get the ts, but the projected economy is off putting as I drive about 75 + miles a day.

Real world gas mileage varies widely on any car based on a number of factors (how much city vs. hwy, short or long trips, light or heavy foot, etc. etc.) It is fair to assume that the tSwill average several mpg lower than other BRZs primarily due to the sticky tires. BRZ owners who have swapped the factory Primacy tires to stickier tires have reported losing as much as 5mpg. So you could buy the Ts and swap the tires for lower rolling resistance tires once the factory tires wear out (which shouldn’t take long based on how many miles you drive) to get better gas mileage. Why does your wife want you to buy the tS? If she just likes some of the cosmetic accessories on it, you could always install a few of the tS pieces on a PP BRZ later on and probably still come out ahead.

[e30kawi]

Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ

Real world gas mileage varies widely on any car based on a number of factors (how much city vs. hwy, short or long trips, light or heavy foot, etc. etc.) It is fair to assume that the tSwill average several mpg lower than other BRZs primarily due to the sticky tires. BRZ owners who have swapped the factory Primacy tires to stickier tires have reported losing as much as 5mpg. So you could buy the Ts and swap the tires for lower rolling resistance tires once the factory tires wear out (which shouldn’t take long based on how many miles you drive) to get better gas mileage. Why does your wife want you to buy the tS? If she just likes some of the cosmetic accessories on it, you could always install a few of the tS pieces on a PP BRZ later on and probably still come out ahead.

She wants me to get the top tier trim, I like most of it, could do without the spoiler and the lower mpg. It really doesn't matter that much to me, but why pay more if I don't have to.

[Coachrhino11]

Originally Posted by e30kawi

She wants me to get the top tier trim, I like most of it, could do without the spoiler and the lower mpg. It really doesn't matter that much to me, but why pay more if I don't have to.

Get what YOU want, that spoiler is ugly.

[yurikaze]

Originally Posted by e30kawi

I know it's probably not a huge concern for most, but what's the real world mpg's for these?

There are multiple ts's at dealers here in Texas, or so it seems. But I was showing my wife what I wanted, limited with pp but she is pushing me to get the ts, but the projected economy is off putting as I drive about 75 + miles a day.

I’ve averaged about 25.5 mpg over the 1000 mile break in period.
A lot of stop and go freeway traffic, and a few canyon runs, but always under 4k rpm.

[ztrevs]

Originally Posted by e30kawi

Is that in a ts?

2017 brz... i dont think having a TS matters too much. same engine/parts just some funky aero bits thats all

[weederr33]

I think there needs to be a yellow tS model... just an idea...

[botbs]

Originally Posted by weederr33

I think there needs to be a yellow tS model... just an idea...

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I want this color!

[e30kawi]

Originally Posted by ztrevs

2017 brz... i dont think having a TS matters too much. same engine/parts just some funky aero bits thats all

I believe they have s different final drive, they are supposed to accelerate better but also at the cost of fuel economy. At least in the website they are listed to have different mileage ratings.

[Rai-zero]

Originally Posted by botbs

I want this color!

me too.

[Side]

Weather forecast is not the greatest for my drive up to the dealership. Might need to mount the winter set again.

[NCtoBRZ]

Originally Posted by e30kawi

I believe they have s different final drive, they are supposed to accelerate better but also at the cost of fuel economy. At least in the website they are listed to have different mileage ratings.

I’m pretty sure that the tS has the same 4.3:1 final drive ratio that all manual transmission BRZs got starting with the 2017 year model. The tS also weighs a little more than other BRZs so if anything it’s a tick slower accelerating. The primary reason for the loss of fuel economy in the tS is the stickier tires, as I said earlier.

[NCtoBRZ]

Originally Posted by e30kawi

She wants me to get the top tier trim, I like most of it, could do without the spoiler and the lower mpg. It really doesn't matter that much to me, but why pay more if I don't have to.

Does she realize that the tS doesn’t add any features over the Limited trim? It’s just aero and suspension tweaks, for quite a bit more money over what you can get a Limited w/ PP for.

[e30kawi]

Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ

I’m pretty sure that the tS has the same 4.3:1 final drive ratio that all manual transmission BRZs got starting with the 2017 year model. The tS also weighs a little more than other BRZs so if anything it’s a tick slower accelerating. The primary reason for the loss of fuel economy in the tS is the stickier tires, as I said earlier.

You're probably right, for some reason I thought something was changed up on them.

Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ

Does she realize that the tS doesn’t add any features over the Limited trim? It’s just aero and suspension tweaks, for quite a bit more money over what you can get a Limited w/ PP for.

Yeah, I explained it to her. She likes the idea of it being a top trim and being 1 of 500. And a couple grand isn't that big of a deal. I prefer the limited with pp over the ts, and ultimately I'll be the one driving so it's my decision. Was trying to gather some real world numbers as far as mpg. But if I rolled into work with that spoiler on the back I'd never hear the end of it.

[NCtoBRZ]

Originally Posted by e30kawi

You're probably right, for some reason I thought something was changed up on them.



Yeah, I explained it to her. She likes the idea of it being a top trim and being 1 of 500. And a couple grand isn't that big of a deal. I prefer the limited with pp over the ts, and ultimately I'll be the one driving so it's my decision. Was trying to gather some real world numbers as far as mpg. But if I rolled into work with that spoiler on the back I'd never hear the end of it.

People keep looking at it like the tS is only a couple grand more. As I mentioned before, the reality is that you can get a Limited with PP for $27k or less pretty easily whereas the tS are going for $34-35k... so the real world price difference is closer to $7k-$8k.