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Old 10-12-2017, 12:06 PM   #15
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Winter is almost here.

Buy a beater for the winter.

Be willing to go south, as far south as North Carolina to find a beater which has never been in the salt. Make sure it has working rear window defogger and A/C, heater which each work...best for clearing the interior in snow conditions.

Many vehicles which have little power work best for winter driving. Four snow tires worth the investment. Anything with a J as it's first digit of vin is your best bet for reliability...new or used.

Save your funds over this winter. Decide in the spring what's best for a new or almost new car at that time.

Personal Note: It's been a while, so can't say what's best now...best winter car I ever had was a (very slightly used) 2005 Mustang coupe with V-6 engine, auto trans (which I normally would hate), traction control/anti lock brakes and four Michelin X-ice snows. Balls on fun to drive in the winter car. Amazing combination of options/add ons it was for driving in western New York State winters at the time. That vehicle so much fun to drive that I constantly looked for short road trip places to drive on winter weekends, and did so. Oh what a positive attitude I had all that winter despite the gloom outdoors.

A winter car should be a FUN driving car...and very few actually are fun in the snow/salt/ ice.

>> Just throw away all your others questions...start asking people...What's the most fun to drive winter car ? <<

Attached pics just for laughs...winter coming soon to a place near you.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:06 PM   #16
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As a lifelong advocate of "zero debt" I would advise getting a used car. Not a beater because they will eat up as much money as a lease if you have to keep running to the dealer for repairs. [...]
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[...] As to winter driving, I believe that the AWD thing is a placebo. Takes a pretty serious amount of snow to sideline an FRS with snow-tires.
Takes a pretty serious amount of snow to sideline an FR-S with winter tires, but takes far less idiots to damage your car and there's nothing more rewarding than watching an idiot, who was trying to crash into your car, crashing alone. This is the true power of AWD.

Anyway, may I suggest waiting until Tokyo Motor Show?
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Takes a pretty serious amount of snow to sideline an FR-S with winter tires, but takes far less idiots to damage your car and there's nothing more rewarding than watching an idiot, who was trying to crash into your car, crashing alone. This is the true power of AWD.

Anyway, may I suggest waiting until Tokyo Motor Show.
In the last 10 years I have seen far more crashed AWD cars (and trucks for that matter) then any other type of vehicle.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:18 PM   #18
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In the last 10 years I have seen far more crashed AWD cars (and trucks for that matter) then any other type of vehicle.
Yep, AWD owners overestimate two things:

1. Their driving skills.
2. AWD in slick conditions.

Especially in trucks where emergency stopping distances are the length of a runway.
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Yep, AWD owners overestimate two things:

1. Their driving skills.
2. AWD in slick conditions.

Especially in trucks where emergency stopping distances are the length of a runway.
And they frequently think that all season tires are fine in the snow since they have AWD.


AWD gives an advantage when starting or accelerating in the snow. It gives zero improvement when stopping, turning or any other maneuver in slick conditions.
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Most(all) reading this post wont know me but by join date, I may be considered somehwat of an OG here. Like many of us, I found this car a few months before its release and as a 19 year old who just got his first full time job, I set my sights on an 86...........

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Too bad your car got wrecked up ......

First off, it's not "The End". You have simply finished the chapter with THAT car.

Sounds like you got a lot of pleasure from owning that car ....... however, it's time to begin a new chapter.

So, now that you are 25 years old, what are your present transportation needs and desires ...... ?? How about a few years down the road..??

There ya go ...... buy what you can afford (willing to pay out for an automobile) ..........


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Would be my choice. AWD and sharp looks for a sedan. Tokyo Auto show will have many on here's hearts a racing as rumor has it the new supra is going to be released.
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Would be my choice. AWD and sharp looks for a sedan. Tokyo Auto show will have many on here's hearts a racing as rumor has it the new supra is going to be released.
Also the first year of a brand new car. Many people here can vouch for how well that sometimes works out.
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My rental is due back monday. I work at night so I can drive my GF car to work for a little while but obviously dont want to make that long term.

I couldnt do another FRS. My dog hated it lol. Theres also a good chance I could have a child over the life of my next loan, so I’d like to get something that’s a little more “mature” and comfortable for a small family.

Ive obsessed over the 14+ IS 350 FSport since they released a few years ago and I could get one with under 40k miles for about 30k. I feel like that may be the best combo of everything I want but its slow compared to other cars in its class and the infotainment system sucks.

Definitely open to all options and advice. Appreciate all the condolences
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I see just a problem with your long-term idea: if the baby becomes "2 babies", will you sell your dog or your gf?
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Anybody that has had to take care of two babies knows that getting rid of the other caregiver is a bad plan.
Get rid of one of the babies.
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Also the first year of a brand new car. Many people here can vouch for how well that sometimes works out.
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Anybody that has had to take care of two babies knows that getting rid of the other caregiver is a bad plan.
Get rid of one of the babies.
There's several good reasons I don't have any babies yet.......

This is one
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