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Old 09-01-2016, 02:17 AM   #17095
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Nothing like being an assistant range safety officer and having a troop who has been in the army for 7 weekend turn around and point a loaded C7 (M16 for you 'Mericans) at you.

Though, the scariest experience of my life was being a bay NCO on a grenade range, and having a troop drop the grenade on the ground after they pulled the pin. I'd take a lifetime of rifles being turned on me over another dropped grenade.
Muzzle sweeping is the most terrifying thing at the range for me. Most of the time you know it's chambered and you can see their finger curled around the trigger while it's slowly pointing towards you in slow motion while you duck down and yell at them. Outside of the actual event is the RO's coming up and yelling for 5 minutes straight about safety and then kicking them off the range. Serves those people right for not at least teaching their friend or trying to stop them.
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Nothing like being an assistant range safety officer and having a troop who has been in the army for 7 weekend turn around and point a loaded C7 (M16 for you 'Mericans) at you.

Though, the scariest experience of my life was being a bay NCO on a grenade range, and having a troop drop the grenade on the ground after they pulled the pin. I'd take a lifetime of rifles being turned on me over another dropped grenade.
So im guessing the outcome was they managed to pick it up and toss it still?

how long does a grenade have before it blows and how long did it feel like?
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I only had to toss a live grenade once and that was, interesting. If I recall how it was supposed to go it was hold it tight to your chest, grenade in dominant hand, support hand on the pin. Pull pin. Bring throwing arm back making sure not to let the spoon fly out and chuck that sumbitch. That was supposed to be separate steps following the coach's directions. I did all that stuff, but in one smooth sequence. As soon as that pin cleared my brain went autopilot on me and said, "get that fuckin thing away from you, dumbass!" I did, chucked it hard immediately. Coach tackled me into the safety pit and chewed my ass. Looked like this, but with more distance.




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LOL In the army we had very strictly enforced range protocols, go/no go zones and secure areas for bystanders when live firing heavy automatic weapons during training.

Those folk's procedures appeared to be "OK kids gather round. Come on Billy get in close so you can see but make sure you stick your fingers in your ears so ya don't go deef""

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Old 09-01-2016, 05:17 AM   #17099
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I reckon that video was taken somewhere in the southern US ...... Georgia maybe ......

But, how did they get their hands on that Vulcan (or whatever that first gun was) ??.........

We had a Vulcan mounted on a M113 APC ...... took the whole thing just to haul the ammo ........ but, talk about laying down a "field of fire" ..... impressive ......


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Though, the scariest experience of my life was being a bay NCO on a grenade range, and having a troop drop the grenade on the ground after they pulled the pin. I'd take a lifetime of rifles being turned on me over another dropped grenade.
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. Coach tackled me into the safety pit and chewed my ass. Looked like this, but with more distance.
Shit how common is this???? I had some dumbass admin clerk chick do the same thing on the grenade range.
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Old 09-01-2016, 08:27 AM   #17102
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So im guessing the outcome was they managed to pick it up and toss it still?

how long does a grenade have before it blows and how long did it feel like?
Haha, nope. if a grenade gets dropped in a bay, you grab the troop, toss them around the corner and jump on top of them.

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So im guessing the outcome was they managed to pick it up and toss it still?

how long does a grenade have before it blows and how long did it feel like?
Not sure if still the same but the ones we used were on a 7 second fuse. Sounds like loads of time but by the time you realize what happened and react you have easily chewed up most of that. The best action is to get the hell out.
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I reckon that video was taken somewhere in the southern US ...... Georgia maybe ......
From the description "This event was in Missouri on May 12, 2012"

Not to say it couldn't have happened in Georgia.
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Not sure if still the same but the ones we used were on a 7 second fuse. Sounds like loads of time but by the time you realize what happened and react you have easily chewed up most of that. The best action is to get the hell out.
Think it's 3-5, but I've always been of the mind that "this thing is waiting to kill me and I don't want it anywhere near me". So it could have a 20 second fuze, I'd still treat it the same.

Grenades are by far the one thing that actually scares me in the military. Not much room for error, and when you fuck up, the results can be catastrophic. I'll stick to 105mm projectiles. At least those don't blow up in the barrel much anymore.
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Muzzle sweeping is the most terrifying thing at the range for me. Most of the time you know it's chambered and you can see their finger curled around the trigger while it's slowly pointing towards you in slow motion while you duck down and yell at them. Outside of the actual event is the RO's coming up and yelling for 5 minutes straight about safety and then kicking them off the range. Serves those people right for not at least teaching their friend or trying to stop them.
As someone who used to work at a gun shop, I can assure you that you get used to being swept every day. The part of your brain that tells you to panic dies a little bit every time.
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