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2much · 11-12-2015, 06:20 PM

Is this expected to actually be quieter than stock axleback?

sw20kosh · 11-12-2015, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2much

Is this expected to actually be quieter than stock axleback?

No but it will rattle/rasp less than stock when you have no cats.

churchx · 11-14-2015, 07:31 AM

Hmm, after watching [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTARjxiqlo"]this video[/ame] 17:20-23:39 i wonder if going for no stuffing type of muffler was the best decision? Among pros i guess no degradation of stuffing material, but among cons - maybe slight performance degradation vs other type of muffling at same noise level, no?

CSG Mike · 11-14-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by churchx

Hmm, after watching

17:20-23:39 i wonder if going for no stuffing type of muffler was the best decision? Among pros i guess no degradation of stuffing material, but among cons - maybe slight performance degradation vs other type of muffling at same noise level, no?

I think you missed the point of this exhaust.

If you're worried about power loss, you should see some of the creative solutions at Laguna Seca that quiet the car down, at the cost of a LOT of power.

On the other hand... I'll just leave this here as an example.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SbdMVMl6PE"]AKRAPOVIČ EXHAUST FOR PORSCHE 911 GT3 (991) - YouTube[/ame]

twag4 · 11-14-2015, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I think you missed the point of this exhaust.

If you're worried about power loss, you should see some of the creative solutions at Laguna Seca that quiet the car down, at the cost of a LOT of power.

On the other hand... I'll just leave this here as an example.

Awesome! This is going to cost a lot for me to quiet down isn't it? Please make a full cat back version too, with nice dual tips...please??!!??!!??!! I so love the type A 350 header I have, but reeeaaahhheeeaaalllyyy want to quiet down. Please , please make it affordable. Please! I don't know how much more car expense my wife can take. You guys got any dishes that need cleaning, or a bathroom or something?

CSG Mike · 11-15-2015, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by twag4

Awesome! This is going to cost a lot for me to quiet down isn't it? Please make a full cat back version too, with nice dual tips...please??!!??!!??!! I so love the type A 350 header I have, but reeeaaahhheeeaaalllyyy want to quiet down. Please , please make it affordable. Please! I don't know how much more car expense my wife can take. You guys got any dishes that need cleaning, or a bathroom or something?

It's not a $11,000 axleback like the Akrapovic

twag4 · 11-22-2015, 02:38 AM

@CSG Mike or @CSG David, do you guys have any idea when this might become available, and a ballpark price estimate? Nothing official that I will hold you to, just wondering how much money I need to be saving up for this. I know you probably cannot divulge this, but I am ready to have this sorted and enjoy my car again with a nice looking exhaust. You guys are great, thanks! (But I am still gonna come back to this thread and nag you every once in awhile)

2much · 11-22-2015, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by twag4

@CSG Mike or @CSG David, do you guys have any idea when this might become available, and a ballpark price estimate? Nothing official that I will hold you to, just wondering how much money I need to be saving up for this. I know you probably cannot divulge this, but I am ready to have this sorted and enjoy my car again with a nice looking exhaust. You guys are great, thanks! (But I am still gonna come back to this thread and nag you every once in awhile)

I believe I am answering accurately on their behalf- production is still up in the air, and if it does get produced it will most likely be in about 6-8 months. Cost will be roughly $1k for the axleback.

twag4 · 11-22-2015, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2much

I believe I am answering accurately on their behalf- production is still up in the air, and if it does get produced it will most likely be in about 6-8 months. Cost will be roughly $1k for the axleback.

I really hope they offer it as a cat back, with a mid pipe too. Hate to have all this 304 stainless goodness with the stock mid pipe.

JimmyMac · 11-22-2015, 06:01 PM

I'd rather have an axle back for something that is trying to keep the performance of the stock muffler but quieter. Keeps the cost down. But let's see what they have to offer first.

Stumpygt86 · 11-24-2015, 06:02 AM

If you want to test this on an NA setup with the ACE 4-2-1 Type B 250 header, then it would cost you lest to ship it to Australia (me)

retrofit · 11-24-2015, 06:13 AM

I'm waiting on this cat back (or axle back) as well

2much · 11-24-2015, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by twag4

I really hope they offer it as a cat back, with a mid pipe too. Hate to have all this 304 stainless goodness with the stock mid pipe.

its designed to mount to stock midpipe. an indication that they are not designing their own midpipe. also an indication that they didnt think it was necessary for gainz or better sound

churchx · 11-24-2015, 09:47 PM

So it will be axle back instead of catback then? From side gains i see lower manufacturing costs and cheaper shipping price due smaller shipping weight/dimensions.

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11-14-2015, 07:31 AM	#101
churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,333 Thanks: 696 Thanked 2,086 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Hmm, after watching [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTARjxiqlo"]this video[/ame] 17:20-23:39 i wonder if going for no stuffing type of muffler was the best decision? Among pros i guess no degradation of stuffing material, but among cons - maybe slight performance degradation vs other type of muffling at same noise level, no?

11-22-2015, 02:38 AM	#105
twag4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: frs Location: The depths Posts: 749 Thanks: 355 Thanked 427 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	@CSG Mike or @CSG David, do you guys have any idea when this might become available, and a ballpark price estimate? Nothing official that I will hold you to, just wondering how much money I need to be saving up for this. I know you probably cannot divulge this, but I am ready to have this sorted and enjoy my car again with a nice looking exhaust. You guys are great, thanks! (But I am still gonna come back to this thread and nag you every once in awhile)

11-22-2015, 06:01 PM	#108
JimmyMac Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S, 2016 Miata Club Location: NC Posts: 785 Thanks: 183 Thanked 258 Times in 171 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'd rather have an axle back for something that is trying to keep the performance of the stock muffler but quieter. Keeps the cost down. But let's see what they have to offer first.

11-24-2015, 06:02 AM	#109
Stumpygt86 Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: Toyota GT86. N/A for life Location: Australia Posts: 45 Thanks: 27 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you want to test this on an NA setup with the ACE 4-2-1 Type B 250 header, then it would cost you lest to ship it to Australia (me)

11-24-2015, 06:13 AM	#110
retrofit Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: Toyota 86 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 55 Thanks: 17 Thanked 33 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm waiting on this cat back (or axle back) as well

11-24-2015, 09:47 PM	#112
churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,333 Thanks: 696 Thanked 2,086 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	So it will be axle back instead of catback then? From side gains i see lower manufacturing costs and cheaper shipping price due smaller shipping weight/dimensions.

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