2016 FR-S Review on GizMag - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Dadhawk · 11-09-2015, 02:56 PM

Nothing new or exciting but seemed like a pretty balanced read:

http://www.gizmag.com/2016-scion-fr-s-review/40269/

"For the everyday driver, or those who do not plan on modifying the FR-S out of warranty, this little coupe is still a great ride as-is. It’s thoroughly enjoyable to drive so long as you don’t fall into the trap of pretending that HP ratings and 0-60 times are all that matter in a sports car. That Camaro might outrun you on the straightaway, but once the curves come, this little Scion will dance around that Chevy like it’s stopped for a potty break. Add in the 30 mpg (8 l/100km) highway rating that the manual transmission in a stock FR-S achieves, and the appeal only gets stronger. "

continuecrushing · 11-09-2015, 04:00 PM

fixed

"For the everyday driver, or those who do not plan on modifying the FR-S out of warranty, this little coupe is still a great ride as-is. It’s thoroughly enjoyable to drive so long as you don’t fall into the trap of pretending that HP ratings and 0-60 times are all that matter in a sports car. That Camaro/mustang/jetta/mini cooper/golf/prius/mini van/reasonably fast kid on a bicycle/ will outrun you on the straightaway, but once the curves come, this little Scion will dance around them like they're stopped for a potty break. Add in the measly 30 mpg (8 l/100km) highway rating that the manual transmission in a stock FR-S achieves, and the appeal is mildly bland. "

weederr33 · 11-09-2015, 04:57 PM

Sounds like a passive aggressive review to me.

Turbo95eg6 · 11-10-2015, 01:16 AM

Jizzmag?

Rampage · 11-10-2015, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

"For the everyday driver, or those who do not plan on modifying the FR-S out of warranty, this little coupe is still a great ride as-is. It’s thoroughly enjoyable to drive so long as you don’t fall into the trap of pretending that HP ratings and 0-60 times are all that matter in a sports car. That Camaro might outrun you on the straightaway, but once the curves come, this little Scion will dance around that Chevy like it’s stopped for a potty break. Add in the 30 mpg (8 l/100km) highway rating that the manual transmission in a stock FR-S achieves, and the appeal only gets stronger. "

I love the FR-S but I would not advise betting my pink slip on this unless those curves are as tight as an autox course, especially if that Camaro happens to also be a 2016. Those that think a Camaro cannot turn are truly living in the past.

Dr Speed · 11-10-2015, 11:18 AM

I'd be interested to see the new Camaro Turbo which is on the ATS platform go against an FRS/BRZ in the curves. Might be closer than they think

Dadhawk · 11-10-2015, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampage

I love the FR-S but I would not advise betting my pink slip on this unless those curves are as tight as an autox course, especially if that Camaro happens to also be a 2016. Those that think a Camaro cannot turn are truly living in the past.

No argument from me on that one.

funwheeldrive · 11-10-2015, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Speed

I'd be interested to see the new Camaro Turbo which is on the ATS platform go against an FRS/BRZ in the curves. Might be closer than they think

Is the ATS any good in the corners without all the magnetic suspension goodies though?

stevesnj · 11-10-2015, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Nothing new or exciting but seemed like a pretty balanced read:

http://www.gizmag.com/2016-scion-fr-s-review/40269/

"For the everyday driver, or those who do not plan on modifying the FR-S out of warranty, this little coupe is still a great ride as-is. It’s thoroughly enjoyable to drive so long as you don’t fall into the trap of pretending that HP ratings and 0-60 times are all that matter in a sports car. That Camaro might outrun you on the straightaway, but once the curves come, this little Scion will dance around that Chevy like it’s stopped for a potty break. Add in the 30 mpg (8 l/100km) highway rating that the manual transmission in a stock FR-S achieves, and the appeal only gets stronger. "

Probably one a the best articles I've read and right on every point. Someone finally gets what this car is about...media wise.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 11-10-2015, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Is the ATS any good in the corners without all the magnetic suspension goodies though?

Most likely not its a 3300 lb car, and the 2016 Camaro will be 3515 lbs, the FR-S has the weight advantage. Unless there is some serious standard suspension and chassis trickery going on, I don't see why the FR-S can't keep up in the corners.

malave7567 · 11-10-2015, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Most likely not its a 3300 lb car, and the 2016 Camaro will be 3515 lbs, the FR-S has the weight advantage. Unless there is some serious standard suspension and chassis trickery going on, I don't see why the FR-S can't keep up in the corners.

The curb weight of a turbo 4 2016 Camaro is listed by GM officially at 3339, with the auto transmission equipped.
http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/...14-camaro.html

The ATS can handle well even without MRC. There's a reason it is so highly regarded. GM (and Ford) have come a long way from the "point straight and mash the gas pedal".

That said, an FR-S will still have the advantage in handling vs the base model Camaro. But with 140 more lbs/ft of torque in the turbo Camaro, I think it would at least be a fun race to watch.

Fishbed77 · 11-10-2015, 05:44 PM

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Those that think a Camaro cannot turn are truly living in the past.

Hell, my 4th gen 1994 Z28 had no trouble turning at all. It didn't have the steering feel or poise of a Twin, but it could definitely turn.

Those cars were not nearly as ponderous as the 5th gen car.

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continuecrushing Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FRS Location: Lake Elsinore, CA Posts: 2,707 Thanks: 1,231 Thanked 2,144 Times in 1,003 Posts Mentioned: 73 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	fixed "For the everyday driver, or those who do not plan on modifying the FR-S out of warranty, this little coupe is still a great ride as-is. It’s thoroughly enjoyable to drive so long as you don’t fall into the trap of pretending that HP ratings and 0-60 times are all that matter in a sports car. That Camaro/mustang/jetta/mini cooper/golf/prius/mini van/reasonably fast kid on a bicycle/ will outrun you on the straightaway, but once the curves come, this little Scion will dance around them like they're stopped for a potty break. Add in the measly 30 mpg (8 l/100km) highway rating that the manual transmission in a stock FR-S achieves, and the appeal is mildly bland. "

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