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09-28-2015, 10:40 AM | #29 | |
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09-28-2015, 11:34 AM | #31 | |
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....of course! Why would you care about something that doesn't concern you! That would be a complete waste of your time and nerves. While you certainly don't have to take the events seriously, you are still obligated to follow the rules, which I assume you do, because your participation and adherence to said rules is what allows those who take the events seriously to have a foundation for said seriousness. And in doing so, you have, even somewhat, a responsibility to uphold this integrity and bring it to attention any rule violations you are aware of, be they intentional or accidental. Self-policing is a very important part of any grassroots motorsport event, you don't get to "not care" with impunity, you must, to some degree, care and provide input, especially around novices who should be told early on, and reminded often, the importance of abiding by the honor system. This year I've caught a number of misclassifications and various calculation errors in our series' results. Had this not been me, it MIGHT have been someone else, but I wasn't going to take that chance, who knows, maybe I was the only one noticed.
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09-28-2015, 01:30 PM | #32 | |
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09-28-2015, 02:21 PM | #33 | |
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One, we don't even know if the guy in question was cheating. The groups I run with allow R comps in Novice classes. Secondly, intentional cheating and accidental cheating (which I have been guilty of when I didn't know and asked the organizers to place me) are two different things.
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I agree no one should cheat to win, but this is a novice who probably didn't even know any better. It should have been addressed to him directly IMO to find out the full story. I don't police cars and classing because I quite simply don't care. It doesn't affect my enjoyment during my runs. I find it far more enjoyable to not worry about crap like that. Then again I almost never have a run without a passenger so you can see how much I care about being competitive.
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a) Check the rules for you region, it may be allowed.
b) It's novice class. While it is good to have that competitive spirit, this class is meant to put all the new guys together to learn, get instructor runs, talk to the pro guys for pointers, etc. The point of Novice class is to learn yourself and your car. In two years you're gonna replace the "3rd Place Novice Class" award with a very proud "8th Place Street/STX Class" award anyways because it means more. c) Make friends FIRST before you make enemies. Even if a guy is cheating, use it as motivation to get faster, it'll be more sweeter when you're faster...he's a novice too, remember? Make friends with and talk to the fast guys, send them GoPro videos to critique your driving, LEARN. He's not learning nearly as much on slicks as you will on the stock Michelins...
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