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Old 03-01-2015, 02:18 PM   #43
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Isn't elevation a huge factor? as well as temperature?

(hypothetical) If I get 200 bhp at 81 ft above sea level vs. someone who is 2,000 ft above sea level would be getting like 178 bhp right off the bat.
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Old 03-01-2015, 02:23 PM   #44
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Isn't elevation a huge factor? as well as temperature?

(hypothetical) If I get 200 bhp at 81 ft above sea level vs. someone who is 2,000 ft above sea level would be getting like 178 bhp right off the bat.
How much bhp would you get in space?
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How much bhp would you get in space?
"Your BHP loss computed from your BHP of 200 at sea level and Elevation of 264000 feet is 1,584.00 HP loss."

= no bueno by my understanding.
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Isn't elevation a huge factor? as well as temperature?

(hypothetical) If I get 200 bhp at 81 ft above sea level vs. someone who is 2,000 ft above sea level would be getting like 178 bhp right off the bat.
BHP loss at 2000ft would only be 12 not 22 so 188 BHP
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Old 03-01-2015, 03:27 PM   #47
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BHP loss at 2000ft would only be 12 not 22 so 188 BHP
I can't do maths
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BHP loss at 2000ft would only be 12 not 22 so 188 BHP
With that being said, what would be the bhp in space?
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With that being said, what would be the bhp in space?
100% loss or 200BHP if no air. Even still your wheels would just spin and ET will tell you your car is slow.
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I think we've covered more..... ground than these vendors. Case closed.
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I think we've covered more ground than these vendors. Case closed.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:47 PM   #52
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??? Can't tell if this is sarcasm or serious.


Are you trying to say that a before/after dyno is bs and the numbers are bogus??


You don't look at total HP dyno numbers but the delta of before/after to see the gain/value/result of your tune.


The graph I quoted showed the shelf OFT e85 tune to give just about zero gain over stock. IE waste of money.
Take it however you want.
It basically means you have no idea what you are on about, otherwise you would understand what I was getting at.
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I know your trying to sell your product and make a sales pitch and put your product in the best possible light but that's not really true. For me, the torque dip was still very much present after I applied the OFT tune.

Btw OP, don't believe everything vendors tell you. Bottom line, they are trying to sell you a product. I've seen it many times from vendors here (oh, our turbo kit is super easy to install when the reality is its not that easy for a first timer).

Here is my dyno with E85 and the EL E85 tune. Big torque dip was still there.

BTW OP, don't believe everything forum members tell you. Bottom line, without a stock baseline graph, this is pointless. :P




anywho, i've used both the Openflash tablet and ecutek. it's really up to what you and your tuner prefers.., if you want to just run free canned tunes then the openflash has alot of free tunes that comes with it. other then that they can both be used to tune your car,
I don't think it's necessarily the tuning option that will give you what you want. it's the tuner.
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BTW OP, don't believe everything forum members tell you. Bottom line, without a stock baseline graph, this is pointless. :P




anywho, i've used both the Openflash tablet and ecutek. it's really up to what you and your tuner prefers.., if you want to just run free canned tunes then the openflash has alot of free tunes that comes with it. other then that they can both be used to tune your car,
I don't think it's necessarily the tuning option that will give you what you want. it's the tuner.
Come help me make my car stock and give me $100 to dyno it ok? If not, then your post is pointless.

Also, you are essentially saying my original torque dip was 40 ft lbs? That's a really stupid thing to say. Show me 1 FRS/BRZ that has that kind of torque dip stock. Almost all have about 20 ft lbs torque dip stock.

Because you are not smart enough to read into the context of my post, my point was the vendor can't make a stupid blanket statement that an Open Flash Tablet canned tune will reduce the torque dip by 50% for everyone. I was calling him out on his sales pitch bullshit.
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Come help me make my car stock and give me $100 to dyno it ok? If not, then your post is pointless.

Also, you are essentially saying my original torque dip was 40 ft lbs? That's a really stupid thing to say. Show me 1 FRS/BRZ that has that kind of torque dip stock. Almost all have about 20 ft lbs torque dip stock.

Because you are not smart enough to read into the context of my post, my point was the vendor can't make a stupid blanket statement that an Open Flash Tablet canned tune will reduce the torque dip by 50% for everyone. I was calling him out on his sales pitch bullshit.
As I already explained, the reduction of the torque dip means that the area of the dip is reduced. Not just the depth as you are interpreting it. I am referring to a area under the curve. Just just a single nominal value. I think that is more relevant to what we care about anyway, no?

You seem to be getting upset because of your lack of understanding. Others in this thread have tried to explain it to you. But you have responded with hostility and aggression. Maybe relax a little?
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Basically if you have money to spare, get EcuTek if you want to get the most out of your NA car. If you're poor, then settle for the OFT.

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