2015 NorCal 86Cup Topics & Talks

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by AyJay

IMO, if we open it to 1 type of timing device we should open it to all... or at least a list of approved devices.

In our case, it's AIM Solo DL, or any timing device with OBD-II.

Times must be submitted immediately after completion of a run group and recorded by a board member. If it has to be downloaded to be viewed, it is not allowed.

-alex

[MyRx]

Originally Posted by mav1178

I just signed up for Laguna Seca 5/23.

One question: for Buttonwillow on 2/28, we are allowing AIM Solo DL lap times to be used with a 0.1second penalty. Would this be allowed for the 5/23 event as well? Would NorCal folks object to this?

-alex

I wouldn't object. You guys doing that on 2/28? I'll be there to observe.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by mav1178

In our case, it's AIM Solo DL, or any timing device with OBD-II.

Times must be submitted immediately after completion of a run group and recorded by a board member. If it has to be downloaded to be viewed, it is not allowed.

-alex

Hmm I don't think Harry's Lap Timer would work then? Gotta buy me an aim solo!!!

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by MyRx

I wouldn't object. You guys doing that on 2/28? I'll be there to observe.

Yah, too many folks at the event + not enough transponders. I'm taking the 0.1 penalty and using my AIM Solo DL.

-alex

[PMok]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Hmm I don't think Harry's Lap Timer would work then? Gotta buy me an aim solo!!!

If we do this I would ask that HLT be considered, again perhaps with an added time penalty (my personal experience is that yeah HLT is also perhaps about 0.1 s optimistic, but fairly consistent). If people are concerned about its accuracy being inconsistent we can address it maybe in other ways, but I wouldn't mind taking a 0.1 or 0.2 s penalty in order to save some money on transponder and timing costs. However I can see that being a PITA if everyone is chasing down Jessie or some other designated person after each session to prove their lap times.

[AyJay]

So is the plan to allow other lap timing devices?
I'd like to be able to use my Qstarz timer and save on transponder costs.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by AyJay

So is the plan to allow other lap timing devices?
I'd like to be able to use my Qstarz timer and save on transponder costs.

This is in the talks. MyRx is going to SoCal to observe their system.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

This is in the talks. MyRx is going to SoCal to observe their system.

BTW I should add that this isn't concrete, we are trying this out at BW to reduce the risk of running out of transponders.

As much as we'd love to foot the bill for things like this, the series is still in its infancy. The end goal is to be able to get to a point where we all use the same timing mechanism and log lap times without penalty, but until then we can only use a deferred method such as this to address inconsistencies in timing.

Obviously if there is a large enough sample set of cars with AIM + track timing to address variances, then we can make a better call on what penalty (if any) to be assigned for 3rd party GPS timing.

-alex

[MyRx]

That's correct, I'll be at BW to observe the SoCal 86Cup. NCRC does not lend out a Tx to everyone, only PointBy and Open drivers gets to rent it for a fee. And the 86Cup is suppose to have Tx set aside for us - however, with so few Tx rentals, they tend to have a surplus at the start of timing.

[MyRx]

Originally Posted by PMok

If we do this I would ask that HLT be considered, again perhaps with an added time penalty (my personal experience is that yeah HLT is also perhaps about 0.1 s optimistic, but fairly consistent). If people are concerned about its accuracy being inconsistent we can address it maybe in other ways, but I wouldn't mind taking a 0.1 or 0.2 s penalty in order to save some money on transponder and timing costs. However I can see that being a PITA if everyone is chasing down Jessie or some other designated person after each session to prove their lap times.

Did you just volunteer?

[PMok]

Originally Posted by MyRx

Did you just volunteer?

Noooo haha... Jk, I will help where I can. Not sure if people have objection to a "competitor" being part of the timing efforts. But let me just say, I think the talent pool is such that I will not likely be in contention this year in my class, last season's 3rd place finish was a fluke haha.


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[BRZkitty]

anyone need a roomate for thunderhill 3/21?

no creepers pls :3

[PMok]

Originally Posted by BRZkitty

no creepers pls :3

I think that rules out just about all of us!

[xero404]

Originally Posted by BRZkitty

anyone need a roomate for thunderhill 3/21?

no creepers pls :3

if my car survives the shakedown on the 28th and the wifey is free that weekend we'd be down to split a room.