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cnk · 10-24-2014, 11:15 AM

Did you specify what alignment settings you wanted? If not, they'll just set it to whatever factory spec is. I had mine set for slight toe in on rear with even camber on both sides and a tiny toe out in front and as much even camber on both sides as possible. You have to know what you want and why though as I wouldn't recommend just asking for what someone posts up on a forum without understanding what those settings will do.

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srizzors25 · 10-24-2014, 11:41 AM

For now just sitting on stock wheels/tires for awhile I would like to keep it somewhat factory. I considered a little bit of camber but I don't know that will really benefit me much right now. Sometime in the future I am going to get some 18's with nice tires and then I'll consider a different alignment setup but thats a way down the road.

Slow_86 · 10-24-2014, 07:11 PM

I just installed my coilovers as well as pbm lca's. MY toe is way out of wack. I attempted to get and alignment today but my toe could not be corrected to within spec. Now i have to have my car sit for a few days waiting on toe arms to come in.

SportInjected · 10-25-2014, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slow_86

I just installed my coilovers as well as pbm lca's. MY toe is way out of wack. I attempted to get and alignment today but my toe could not be corrected to within spec. Now i have to have my car sit for a few days waiting on toe arms to come in.

Just curious, how much did you lower the car?

wparsons · 10-25-2014, 10:08 PM

^^ and, how much was the camber adjusted after the drop? Changing the camber with a LCA is what throws the toe off, not just lowering it.

srizzors25 · 10-26-2014, 04:20 PM

So I just got the car back yesterday and it feels great. The toe was off at around -2.25 haha way way off. I lowered the car about the maximum that the Tein's could offer, should be about 2" all around. They were able to get the front basically perfect, 0 toe, just about -.5 degrees of camber in the front.

However in the rear they were able to 0 out the toe no problem but I'm running about -2 degrees on both rear wheels which is the best they could do. They told me to monitor tire wear for a little while and we'll try and make some changes. If it's too much of a problem I guess I'd need toe arms? so they can independently make changes to both the camber and toe to dial that in nicely.

Car feels really nice though, planted very well, pretty good ride with those Tein's too. Height is right where I'd like it too. functional but looks good

wparsons · 10-26-2014, 04:25 PM

Get toe arms ASAP, a couple degrees of toe in on each wheel will definitely be noticeable in tire wear, worse if you have any camber in the rear.

srizzors25 · 10-26-2014, 04:27 PM

Oh there is no toe now, thats how it was when I brought it to them, thus the terrible feeling mentioned at the beginning of the thread. the rear is 0 toe, around -2 degrees camber.

They told me the car felt like a "shopping cart" in terms of how loose the rear was ha.

7thgear · 10-27-2014, 09:54 AM

-2 camber @ 0 toe won't wear you down, don't worry about it

enjoy the car!

srizzors25 · 10-27-2014, 10:00 AM

cnk · 10-27-2014, 03:35 PM

The rear feels a little loose to them because most people usually run a tiny bit of toe-in on the rear to lock it down.

srizzors25 · 10-27-2014, 04:05 PM

After a little driving it feels great. I'll have to post up the before and after spec sheet from the shop. Car feels much more planted now. Didn't expect a huge change in performance but man it's almost night and day with handling and it's just stock wheels/tires for now

wparsons · 10-27-2014, 10:06 PM

Ideally you'll even out the camber, these cars need more static camber up front than in the rear to maintain an even grip balance, BUT that won't wear tires out faster in daily driving as it sits now. You will probably find that it's harder on front tires when driven hard, and is more likely to push more at the limit. If you can get it to -2 up front it'll even out more. I'm at -2 all around and could use another 0.5 up front, or about 0.5 less in the rear.

Slow_86 · 10-28-2014, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportInjected

Just curious, how much did you lower the car?

I completely eliminated wheel gap. So 1.5-2 inches. My car is sitting right now until i get my spc toe arms in. I think one side toe is at 1 3/4" and the other at 5/16". Even just driving home my tires squealed like crazy and my abs and tc light kicked on.

10-24-2014, 11:41 AM	#16
srizzors25 Daedalus Moto Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 05 LGT Wagon, 08 R6 Race Bike Location: Sebastopol, CA Posts: 641 Thanks: 1,285 Thanked 693 Times in 365 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For now just sitting on stock wheels/tires for awhile I would like to keep it somewhat factory. I considered a little bit of camber but I don't know that will really benefit me much right now. Sometime in the future I am going to get some 18's with nice tires and then I'll consider a different alignment setup but thats a way down the road. __________________

10-26-2014, 04:20 PM	#20
srizzors25 Daedalus Moto Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 05 LGT Wagon, 08 R6 Race Bike Location: Sebastopol, CA Posts: 641 Thanks: 1,285 Thanked 693 Times in 365 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So I just got the car back yesterday and it feels great. The toe was off at around -2.25 haha way way off. I lowered the car about the maximum that the Tein's could offer, should be about 2" all around. They were able to get the front basically perfect, 0 toe, just about -.5 degrees of camber in the front. However in the rear they were able to 0 out the toe no problem but I'm running about -2 degrees on both rear wheels which is the best they could do. They told me to monitor tire wear for a little while and we'll try and make some changes. If it's too much of a problem I guess I'd need toe arms? so they can independently make changes to both the camber and toe to dial that in nicely. Car feels really nice though, planted very well, pretty good ride with those Tein's too. Height is right where I'd like it too. functional but looks good __________________

10-26-2014, 04:27 PM	#22
srizzors25 Daedalus Moto Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 05 LGT Wagon, 08 R6 Race Bike Location: Sebastopol, CA Posts: 641 Thanks: 1,285 Thanked 693 Times in 365 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Oh there is no toe now, thats how it was when I brought it to them, thus the terrible feeling mentioned at the beginning of the thread. the rear is 0 toe, around -2 degrees camber. They told me the car felt like a "shopping cart" in terms of how loose the rear was ha. __________________

10-27-2014, 09:54 AM	#23
7thgear i'm sorry, what? Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Canada Location: I rock a beat harder than you can beat it with rocks Posts: 4,399 Thanks: 357 Thanked 2,506 Times in 1,268 Posts Mentioned: 40 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	-2 camber @ 0 toe won't wear you down, don't worry about it enjoy the car! __________________ don't you think if I was wrong, I'd know it?

10-27-2014, 10:00 AM	#24
srizzors25 Daedalus Moto Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 05 LGT Wagon, 08 R6 Race Bike Location: Sebastopol, CA Posts: 641 Thanks: 1,285 Thanked 693 Times in 365 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	__________________

10-24-2014, 11:15 AM	#15
cnk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '13 DGM BRZ Limited Location: NJ Posts: 1,201 Thanks: 59 Thanked 547 Times in 339 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Did you specify what alignment settings you wanted? If not, they'll just set it to whatever factory spec is. I had mine set for slight toe in on rear with even camber on both sides and a tiny toe out in front and as much even camber on both sides as possible. You have to know what you want and why though as I wouldn't recommend just asking for what someone posts up on a forum without understanding what those settings will do. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk

10-24-2014, 07:11 PM	#17
Slow_86 Cpt. Slow Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: 2015 series.Blue Location: Okla City Posts: 74 Thanks: 16 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I just installed my coilovers as well as pbm lca's. MY toe is way out of wack. I attempted to get and alignment today but my toe could not be corrected to within spec. Now i have to have my car sit for a few days waiting on toe arms to come in.

10-27-2014, 03:35 PM	#25
cnk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '13 DGM BRZ Limited Location: NJ Posts: 1,201 Thanks: 59 Thanked 547 Times in 339 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The rear feels a little loose to them because most people usually run a tiny bit of toe-in on the rear to lock it down.

10-27-2014, 04:05 PM	#26
srizzors25 Daedalus Moto Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 05 LGT Wagon, 08 R6 Race Bike Location: Sebastopol, CA Posts: 641 Thanks: 1,285 Thanked 693 Times in 365 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	After a little driving it feels great. I'll have to post up the before and after spec sheet from the shop. Car feels much more planted now. Didn't expect a huge change in performance but man it's almost night and day with handling and it's just stock wheels/tires for now __________________

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