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04-27-2012, 03:30 PM | #15 |
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So i guess 225 will be the best fit for the stock wheel width? Im sure it will be enough if everybody is praising this car for its grip even with econo skinny tires. I might pick up some 8 inch wide enkeis so i can go wider though.
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back on topic, if you want to run a 235 section width, you would probably want to use a 40 aspect ratio, not a 45.
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...and I agree that 235/40 would be more reasonable to attempt to fit on the OEM wheel than a 235/45. I have an old used-up 245/40 Hoosier R6 that I might try to test fit to see if it would work for stock class. Perhaps the Federal tire is good for the track at which you run, but I have not seen anyone with Federals in the paddocks I frequent. I also wrongly assumed that someone with track days in a C63, S14, and having all the other cars listed in your sig would be looking for so much savings on their tires, so I apologize. |
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I had an 02 Spec-V with stock 17x7's. It came with some 215 45 17 Continental Conti Sport Contacts (CCC) and they sucked for autocross. I switched to 225 35 17 Kumo Ecsta MX's and those things were awsome. They of course only lasted about 4000 miles but were great in Auto X and my 60 ft time went from 2.2 to 1.9 with a very small burnout.
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Save an extra couple of bucks? I said i might go though a set every month or so, thats $490 for federals vs $980 for R888'S thats a $490 dollar difference. My garage space at the track costs 200 so just using federals would pay for my garage plus i would have money left over for oil changes and brakes. Why would i want to spend 490 dollars more on tires if i am not competing in anything? I am just running the car for fun, if i can get the same smile on my face running federals vs r888's, i run them on my c63's stock wheels and they work great at the track i have a blast then i drive home in my invos. And for your comment on getting a miata, i cant fit in a miata with a helmet im too tall thats why i did not buy one, and i have a trailer. I want a newer car that i can have fun in over and over and will never give me problems. BTW i have gone off track quite a bit and no damage has ever been done to my cars other than a flat tire and a cracked lip. I used to run a 500whp EVO X with full suspension upgrades, r compounds, cage etc the whole build cost me over 25k. Was it fast? Yup. Did i beat nearly all the cars that went to my local track? yup . 500WHP is hard on a car and it would break down every now and then and it was expensive to fix, i figured i did not need a fast car to have fun when i drove one of the mazda 2 instructor cars and they are cheap to run. My reason with getting the FR'S is a car i can rely on mechanically and i will only have to play with suspension , and safety equipment to have fun in it. So its my same argument with the tires why spend 490 dollars more every month or two when i can have the same fun for less? When i drift my 240sx i try to find the cheapest and easiest to find tires to destroy, why would i slap michelin tires or more expensive ones if i am drifting for pleasure not to win a contest plus el cheapo riken tires will do great for drifting. Do me a favor and go buy a set of federals and try them out you will be surprised what 490 bucks will get you, im not saying they are as grippy as r compounds but they will do the job perfectly specially on such a light car. Here is my garage and where my frs will be stored after she is broken in and stripped.
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-the cost of tires in comparison to the extra $2x,xxx you are spending on a car isnt a lot of money -when you say money left over for brakes do you mean upgrade or replacing pads? -if the federal street tires are only lasting a month, they probably suck -if you just want fun, why are you wanting to go widest tire possible? all that will do is take away the feel and responsiveness that the car can offer in the first place -if you dont fit in a race prepped miata, you wont fit in a stock frs so before you talk about the frustration of people commenting on things they dont know... -nobody cares about your evo -picking a car with virtually no aftermarket or tuning experience for the track is stupid -were not talking about drifting your 240, we are talking about racing your frs -grip is grip. it doesnt matter how light the car. if your federals grip, rcomps or star specs (or any decent street tire) will grip better -dont ask for advice if you dont want it im sure theres more but im at work and dont really want to get into it |
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- I do fit on an frs head room is what kills me in the miata i cant fit with my helmet with the top on, im 6'3. I sat at my local subaru dealer on a brz with a helmet and i clear the roof perfectly so stop commenting on stuff you dont know man. - I asked advice for tire size not your personal envy or critics on a tire brand. - ON YOUR QUESTION REGARDING BRAKES Yes i mean pads and even a brake upgrade since i wont go through pads every month. - I doubt Going two sizes up on tire size take away the responsiveness of the car it will provide more grip if anything. - ON YOUR QUESTION ON WHY BUY A 20+K CAR FOR TRACK + NO EXPERIENCE : What part of its my money and i can do what ever i want part dont you understand? Ive always wanted an frs for track and i have the means to do it, that also means i can put what ever brand tire i want. What are you talking about no aftermarket parts? cusco just released a ton of parts plus its only a matter of months before they start selling more and more parts this is the most anticipated tuner car of 2012 , im not in a rush time is on my side plus the car is pretty much ready to enjoy the track as it is so i can start seeing what needs to be upgraded, man it seems the one with no experience here is you thinking about upgrading a car you have not even driven yet. - Im not saying i will need a set a month its just a calculation on how much i will be saving , some months i go 2-3 times to the track so i finish a set in that month , sometimes i only go once on a month so the tires will last me longer. BTW you are talking to me like if its my first time tracking a car ive ran nittos & hankooks on my c63 and they wear quicker than the federals. -Who the hell told you i want more grip? you are just assuming on your own read carefully ( I DO NOT CARE HOW MUCH FASTER I CAN RUN ON R COMPOUNDS STAR SPECS ETC I WANT CHEAP TIRES SO I CAN RUN HER AS MUCH AS I WANT AND HAVE FUN THATS IT NO LAP TIMES ETC JUST PURE FUN i ASKED ABOUT A TIRE SIZE NOT YOUR PERSONAL OPINION ON A TIRE BRAND OR WHAT I CAN OR CANT DO WITH MY MONEY ) EDIT: Judging by how you compose your self on this forum trying to argue or contradict where ever you can, I would suggest you take your hatred elsewhere and get lost ok bud?
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-going to a tire that has that much sidewall and using a rim smaller than recommended is going to kill the responsiveness. when you go through the motions, you pick a tire size and go with the widest wheel possible not the other way around -the part i dont understand is that you came here and asked us what we thought. when we told you, you argued it. do what you want but im pretty sure that its the forums opinion that its stupid -why do you want wider tires if not for more grip? other than grip, weight and sidewall flex are the only things you gain i guess what im trying to say is that if you want to save your money go ahead. if you want to spend a shit load, go ahead. using wider cheaper tires is not going to make the car more fun. if you want fun dont go wider and cheaper, invest in properly sized tires and a solid alignment. im sure the majority of people will agree with that. |
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The contradiction of wanting an affordable track vehicle yet dropping close to $30k on a dedicated track vehicle adds to the confusion...
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I think you got the wrong idea since i was just saying they are grippy compared to other brands or oem tires.
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30K for you buddy i live in the US more like 27.5 out the door for me. It might confuse you but im here to make it stick through your thick head i asked for tire size advice not Brand Advice. I bet the closest you have ever come to r compounds or a race track is super street magazine.
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