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If you damage your cat, the shop would usually replace it with OEM equipment, as that's what federal regs call for.
If its an aftermarket piece, you're on your own, they won't touch it. There's no real functional difference between primary and secondary. Primary is monitored by the ECU, secondary is just a redundant backup. Technically, both are required by federal regulations to remain OEM and intact for the life of the warranty which is 8 years or 80k miles as they are part of the emissions control system. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk |
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Are you trying to get by without a tune? If so, you'll need some kind of defouler setup to trick the o2 sensor and avoid CEL. That's a lot less involved than trying to move a cat and sensors around to another part of the exhaust system. |
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No tune and no plans to at least until warranty is expired... it just isn't with it to me to spend $500+ on 10hp. The cel can be fixed other ways, and hopefully this ecu correction that I read about on the forums Idk how legit it is
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Sorry for not getting a clear understanding of your situation. Preferably get a tune, next easiest path is defouler, last resort, move the sensor setup to use the secondary and hope the secondary is enough to meet the ECU threshold for keeping CEL in check. I don't have experience with that so I'm afraid I can't really add more to this. |
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I'm guessing the secondary is better than using a mini-cat or o2 extender piece. Is that what you mean by defouler?
And as I said, another member has been using the secondary for a while with success |
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Open FLash Tablet with Open Flash header for a Grand, awesome deal. You get the part and it does more than make sound. And I believe you will see closer to 20 hps with Shivs Tune
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A grand for a header, no thanks. And I heard people were still getting cel's with the ft86speedfactory header.
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no, a grand for a header and a tuning tablet/data logger + tunes
also, If you wouldn't spend $500 for 10hp, then why bother with a header? A header without a tune will cost more than $500, and will not net you more than about 10hp n/a
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I don't really want a tune, my goal with this car is not squeezing out little bits of NA power. I paid $380 for my UEL for the rumbles.. Hate all you want.
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no hate, just curiosity. noise doesn't really register on my radar, so I honestly couldn't figure why you would get a header.
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