Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by fenton

The 250 is about 43k rpm

I don't even know what I'm running anymore...

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[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by shif7i7down

Video of gtec run will come soon. As for the hp comparison it's just from the openflash tablet log using virtual dyno. Vd may not be super accurate but it's a good tool to used for before and after mod comparison.

For example. Pre fd install the logs showed 220whp 196trq

After fd install the logs showed 268whp 245trq.

That's because your gearing changed, doesn't mean you are as fast as a car with 260+whp, just means it pulls like it through the gears (fun!), but you have to shift to a higher gear ratio sooner.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

That's because your gearing changed, doesn't mean you are as fast as a car with 260+whp, just means it pulls like it through the gears (fun!), but you have to shift to a higher gear ratio sooner.

I think he was saying he knows that it didn't add that power but the torque multiplier of dropping the ratio is what's being calculated.

[silent runner]

Originally Posted by MmmHamSandwich

I have a point of confusion I am hoping kit owners can answer.

I hear people repeatedly state this kit "only makes boost at WOT." This makes no sense to me, as an FI setup that only engages the moment you hit full throttle would exhibit unsafe drivability. Is this truly how the kit operates or are these just uninformed people repeating the same banter over and over?

Can someone elaborate on when/how this kit engages boost. I assume it is in fact modifiable according to the tuning. The way people talk about it however, make it sound like an on off switch and not progressive like, say, every well tuned FI solution in existence. Are there really people who have it set up in such a fashion, and do they realize the hazards it presents?

I think you are definitely getting the wrong impression of how this system works. Both on my own car (a prototype set-up on a V-6, Camry), and on the FRS/BRZ. Maybe you have viewed the classic "Mad Max" movie, a few too many times.

It's not a 200 shot of nitrous, that breaks tires loose on the roll at 40mph. As Fenton notes, it's not like a a high boost turbo either, that waits a bit, then whacks you. It's actually a very sweet but managable amount of power, available for regular everyday driving manouvers, and very managable in safe, sporty, fun driving, with an experienced, responsible driver.

Any sort of power modification that actually works significantly depends on the person pushing the pedals and holding onto the steering wheel. This one is probably one of the safest ways you could make real extra action happen.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by silent runner

I think you are definitely getting the wrong impression of how this system works. Both on my own car (a prototype set-up on a V-6, Camry), and on the FRS/BRZ. Maybe you have viewed the classic "Mad Max" movie, a few too many times.

It's not a 200 shot of nitrous, that breaks tires loose on the roll at 40mph. As Fenton notes, it's not like a a high boost turbo either, that waits a bit, then whacks you. It's actually a very sweet but managable amount of power, available for regular everyday driving manouvers, and very managable in safe, sporty, fun driving, with an experienced, responsible driver.

Any sort of power modification that actually works significantly depends on the person pushing the pedals and holding onto the steering wheel. This one is probably one of the safest ways you could make real extra action happen.

I completely agree. It's hard to describe how manageable the extra power is. And if you are good with throttle position you can really do some neat things with this system.

[enwave]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

I completely agree. It's hard to describe how manageable the extra power is. And if you are good with throttle position you can really do some neat things with this system.

The only part that took me some getting used to was WOT into a tight corner at relatively low speed on a track. I broke the rear loose where I didn't before and was able to recover, but it did catch me by surprise. That was my first time at the track with the kit. Since then, I've learned to delay my throttle about a half second longer at that spot and it is smooth sailing. In fact, exit speeds on technical corners or Autocross is outstanding with this system.

I figure I would have a similar problem in a different situation with any type of boost in a first run with it (boost understeer at a higher speed corner with traditional boost like I got driving my buddy's turbo S2K).

I have yet to experience any "surprises" on the street.

[reignerabellera]

lucky state people, I dont have a choice but to just follow this thread and keep drooling.

[Target70]

Originally Posted by reignerabellera

lucky state people, I dont have a choice but to just follow this thread and keep drooling.

some are lucky, but some of us just have to keep drooling right along with you.

[reignerabellera]

Originally Posted by Target70

some are lucky, but some of us just have to keep drooling right along with you.

yeah, I hope it wont be long when Rob would finally sell this international, ill buy one from him right away

[WNDSRFR]

I don't think it's so much Rob isn't selling internationally as much as he's not selling any at all due to parts shortages. After all USA is international for Rob.
But everybody leave Rob alone until after he fixes my controller. I've been ESC-less for over a week and it is just awful. To not have the power is one thing but to have the power and get it taken away is really tough.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

I don't think it's so much Rob isn't selling internationally as much as he's not selling any at all due to parts shortages. After all USA is international for Rob.
But everybody leave Rob alone until after he fixes my controller. I've been ESC-less for over a week and it is just awful. To not have the power is one thing but to have the power and get it taken away is really tough.

Cry me a river lol,
I've been waiting for one since about a year ago and I've also had noobs having a go at me thinking I must be a noob because they got theirs first. RHD bro, only gums has one at the moment.

[gtfapollo]

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

To not have the power is one thing but to have the power and get it taken away is really tough.

It actually sucks people. It really does!

[reignerabellera]

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

I don't think it's so much Rob isn't selling internationally as much as he's not selling any at all due to parts shortages. After all USA is international for Rob.
But everybody leave Rob alone until after he fixes my controller. I've been ESC-less for over a week and it is just awful. To not have the power is one thing but to have the power and get it taken away is really tough.

You gave me more reason to envy you state guys, especially mentioning the word "power". I cant even imagine the improvement it will make without going FI. and us overseas are stuck on how to improve torque.

[shif7i7down]

Originally Posted by jdv14476

Speaking of rides. @shif7i7down, don't suppose that you'd be close enough for a meet and ride sometime down the road. I do make an annual journey to visit relatives in Janesville and wouldn't mind a detour.

No problem, just message me when you are around my area, we can meet up. But Just do you know, Janesville is roughly 1.5hrs away from Milwaukee

Btw, gtec didn't go so well so i won't be posting the video, I'm actually slower, could not grip for shit. Burn rubber like crazy all 1st and 2nd gear, but I'll do some rolling race with a lanevo x and post those up soon.