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Old 06-01-2014, 11:58 PM   #15
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When my camber slipped, the toe went with it. It drove without pulling left or right but the steering was off by a couple inches. Realigned and all was well. Not so sure since you are stock and there isn't as much that can slip. Let us know what you find tomorrow.
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One of my first autox in this car when I did the review and the car was stock, my alignment/toe went completely off. Had about 1.5" toe out and wheel was off center by large margin.

Nothing broken or damaged, just a massive toe change from very bumpy surface. Could be as simple as getting an alignment here.
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i put my car up a 10" high curb and had no alignment changes. you should get jdm tie rods.
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One of my first autox in this car when I did the review and the car was stock, my alignment/toe went completely off. Had about 1.5" toe out and wheel was off center by large margin.

Nothing broken or damaged, just a massive toe change from very bumpy surface. Could be as simple as getting an alignment here.
Front or rear toe? If it was front, there is no way that happened without something bending. Front toe is changed by threading the inner tie rod in or out of the rack, and the setting is locked by a jamb nut against the outer tie rod. Bumpy surfaces won't do anything to that unless it's bending something.

Rear is a different story with the offset bushing in the toe arm, it could slip.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:36 AM   #20
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The autox was on a bumpy concrete surface, the wheel was turned to 11 o Clock position after finishing. I drove home on it after inspection

When I got to the alignment rack next day which I did myself, we were somewhat dumb founded. Don't know if the issue was in the steering rack or what. But re-aligned, and have had about 40 events and 20 alignments since (over 1.5 years), 80% which I assisted or did myself. After every track day so far, there are always very small changes in toe front and rear. I re-align after every 2-3 track days.

I did pro-actively change the control arm, bolts, support bracket and outer tie rod much later on after the Ohlins setup because I am so anal. But even after that toe is always changing after a few events, but never as bad as that autox. @wparsons
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i literally snapped a rear toe arm, you would not be able to drive. the car IMMEDIATELY lost control and the rear snapped around. only solution is to call a tow truck. unless the car feels 100%, DO NOT DRIVE IT
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So I had it checked today. The people said nothing major and nothing was bent or damaged except that the alignment is very off. Here is the picture.
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So I had it checked today. The people said nothing major and nothing was bent or damaged except that the alignment is very off. Here is the picture.
That was my situation as described just align and move on.
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Nothing really went wrong after?? Just wondering


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That was my situation as described just align and move on.
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Nothing really went wrong after?? Just wondering
Nothing wrong been on track, autox plenty. But also have had about 20 alignments.
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were those 20 alignments done just because you wanted to?
or do you actually feel after that incident, the alignment is easy to go slightly off?

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were those 20 alignments done just because you wanted to?
or do you actually feel after that incident, the alignment is easy to go slightly off?

I am not a normal car owner, I can tell when the alignment is off front or rear by a fractional amount mainly from karting so much. Usually after about 3 hard core autox I can feel the toe is uneven in the front although the wheel is still center. Same with track days usually after two I re-align.
Its not needed but I am very particular.

So the short answer is I have never had the wheel go off center like you had except at that that one event and it was a very rough surface, that was a year ago for me.

So I would not worry.

As long as your strut bolts are tight, control arms, brace, tie rods, ball joints are all tight just drive it like you want.
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