Cosworth Power Package/Parts Teased

[husker741]

Originally Posted by Decay107

Question, where the fuck are all these claims that it will be covered by the factory warranty come from? It makes absolutely no sense to me that either Subaru or Toyota would cover any aftermarket components that they do not design and build in house.

The TRD superchargers that came on tC's were from Vortech. They also use Eibach for some suspension stuff.

I'm with you though, I'll be shocked if for this stuff it's under warranty.

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by husker741

The TRD superchargers that came on tC's were from Vortech. They also use Eibach for some suspension stuff.

I'm with you though, I'll be shocked if for this stuff it's under warranty.

Also the "TRD" Diff for the tC was a rebadged Quaife diff.

Stage 1 kit is a catback + tune. with a filter and some bling.

Problem is, stage 2 would have to be more than just an OP and FP. It should also come with a new map.

Same with stage 3. etc etc.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by TrogDor the Burninator

My only quibble is that the car stock is not 200HP at the wheels ... Everyone knows this ... Every dyno shows it. Saying you can get to 230HP with an exhaust and a remap using a starting point of 200HP seems like false advertising to anyone that isn't a casual observer.

Right but it will probably be marketed as a direct from dealer kit over there. Say you are a normal person and you see the brz with 200bhp for 25k. Right next to it is the cogsworth brz with 185whp for 31k. That's just not going to work.

And as far as I'm concerned this thread hasn't been about viable parts since nothing new or groundbreaking has been presented as yet. Just the automotive equivalent of Louis Vuitton.

[Luckrider]

Originally Posted by TrogDor the Burninator

My only quibble is that the car stock is not 200HP at the wheels ... Everyone knows this ... Every dyno shows it. Saying you can get to 230HP with an exhaust and a remap using a starting point of 200HP seems like false advertising to anyone that isn't a casual observer.

Cosworth does their tuning using an engine dyno so their numbers are crank HP.

[TrogDor the Burninator]

Originally Posted by Luckrider

Cosworth does their tuning using an engine dyno so their numbers are crank HP.

I see BHP being thrown around with the 230 number ...

If Cosworth is saying at the crank they better get a hold of their affiliated partners' messaging and social media ...

[Luckrider]

Originally Posted by TrogDor the Burninator

I see BHP being thrown around with the 230 number ...

If Cosworth is saying at the crank they better get a hold of their affiliated partners' messaging and social media ...

No, they simply engineer their products using an engine dyno. You can tune the engine more accurately that way, but not necessarily the car as a whole.

[Levi]

Originally Posted by TrogDor the Burninator

I see BHP being thrown around with the 230 number ...

If Cosworth is saying at the crank they better get a hold of their affiliated partners' messaging and social media ...

Other than drift/drag, nobody uses whp, but hp @crank.

In case anybody forgot that other limited production car, the Subaru Impreza WRX STI CS400. http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...reza-sti-cs400

[350matt]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

Also the "TRD" Diff for the tC was a rebadged Quaife diff.

Stage 1 kit is a catback + tune. with a filter and some bling.

Problem is, stage 2 would have to be more than just an OP and FP. It should also come with a new map.

Same with stage 3. etc etc.

I believe each stage comes with separate tune included in the price
so 1.1 has its own tune , stage 1.2 has its own tune and stage 1.3 has its own tune

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by TrogDor the Burninator

My only quibble is that the car stock is not 200HP at the wheels ... Everyone knows this ... Every dyno shows it. Saying you can get to 230HP with an exhaust and a remap using a starting point of 200HP seems like false advertising to anyone that isn't a casual observer.

The car comes 197bhp from the factory and this adds 30hp. Not really misleading. Who said 200 at the wheels? Its engine power which is quite easy to equate to WHP should you decide. Despite the fact you think its a British thing, these will have been power tested on an engine dyno (I saw the engine on one), not chassis, just like the OEM do. Hence an accurate crank BHP figure and not some muffled WHP figure,

[SkAsphalt]

Originally Posted by TrogDor the Burninator

My only quibble is that the car stock is not 200HP at the wheels ... Everyone knows this ... Every dyno shows it. Saying you can get to 230HP with an exhaust and a remap using a starting point of 200HP seems like false advertising to anyone that isn't a casual observer.

no it isn't. at all. It is an advertised increase of 30hp

[ProjectGT86]

Originally Posted by eikond

I assume you are just trying to taunt me . If so.. well-played.




Stop doing the conversion directly from UK to US.. it won't be priced that way here in the US.

Do we even know if it's going to be available for sale in the US? Cosworth invited owners from Europe, to check out their FA20 operations not any American owners. If anything we are going to have to buy it at UK-USD conversion rate and import the kit here and have a third party install it.. So do consider the UK prices, until we get confirmation that cosworth has a dealer here in the US we can only go by the present prices

[ProjectGT86]

Originally Posted by TrogDor the Burninator

I see BHP being thrown around with the 230 number ...

If Cosworth is saying at the crank they better get a hold of their affiliated partners' messaging and social media ...

They used an engine dyno so the increase was 30-33bhp... So that means the wheel hp numbers are probably around the high 170s low 180s now, I'm sure with some pulley and fly wheel upgrades you could free up several more whp

[ProjectGT86]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

You're correct, it is a 4-2-1.

However the internal and external heat treatment won't be on most Nameless manifolds Having not seen a Nameless manifold I can't comment on whether they are the same, we were told they were exclusive. It may well be the coating that's exclusive as that makes a fair difference.

As for pricing, it quite....er.... Interesting isn't it?! There were quite a few jaws dropping on reveal.

However I spent some time with their lead engineer and we saw a FA20 on an engine dyno. They have evaluated the whole engine and was interesting discussing their findings. They have used full engine development software based on an engine tear down to get dimensions and specs etc.

The things that stick out in memory:
-Stock airbox is good for at least 300bhp
-the main resonator does help for NA cars, the others make no difference and the sound generator does affect performance.
-The air feed/snorkel is not a restriction.
-Cams aren't worthwhile

Nameless has had a Ceramic coated 4-2-1 header for like a year the US has been with these same aftermarket parts since forever, so is the overpipe/front pipe combo, we've had these same aftermarket parts by nameless for almost a year already, it's nothing new...
http://shop.namelessperformance.com/2013-fr-s/

[Roxy86]

why the dubstep?!