Tracking BRZ: Road America

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

I'd run even compounds f&r. I staggered before but prefer even now.

Same here; I got a lot more wear with staggered pads, and overheated the front brakes more, as you shift the bias forward with a less aggressive pad in the rear.

Also, a square pad setup also helps with rotation during trailbraking.

[Apex_BRZ]

Originally Posted by dwx

I ran RA a few times in my WRX. I never had the balls to take it as fast as I could have. It is a wide fast track without much room for error and definitely hard on brakes if you push it. Driving up that front straight in a stock BRZ has got to be painful, but at least it will give you some time for your brakes to cool off.

I think a lot of the straights on the track are going to be painful. The car is insanely slow. But that's ok, it'll still be fun.

Don't understand the comments about boiling ATE fluid...I mean, I understand them...I've just never seen it happen. My friends drive their cars hard and they've never had a problem. The BRZ is a turd of a car and there is so much time between turns at RA. I'm not going to change fluid for this event since I won't be driving hard, but what fluid are you guys suggesting?

[Dezoris]

Road America is probably the hardest track on brakes in America.
Spring for a high boiling point fluid. Be ready for brake fade.
Start with pressures of 32PSI cold if you have over -1.0 camber and 34PSI if you have under -1.0 camber.

[ayau]

These are good tips as I'll be going to RA with the ITR Expo group. Will get some high temp pads and proper fluid. Torque fluid?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Apex_BRZ

I think a lot of the straights on the track are going to be painful. The car is insanely slow. But that's ok, it'll still be fun.

Don't understand the comments about boiling ATE fluid...I mean, I understand them...I've just never seen it happen. My friends drive their cars hard and they've never had a problem. The BRZ is a turd of a car and there is so much time between turns at RA. I'm not going to change fluid for this event since I won't be driving hard, but what fluid are you guys suggesting?

If you're against spending 20 bucks to ensure the below doesn't happen into Canada corner…well, I don't know what to tell you. Running ATE isn't going to make the car less street able.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6k88Q3ag30"]CTSCC 2012 Road America Practice Pombo Huge Crash - YouTube[/ame]

[Apex_BRZ]

Originally Posted by Robbie

If you're against spending 20 bucks to ensure the below doesn't happen into Canada corner…well, I don't know what to tell you. Running ATE isn't going to make the car less street able.

I have buddies with a race car on slicks, a BMW 540i, MazdaSpeed 3, C5 Vette, C6 Vette, and M3 all running that fluid. We go to RA each year, some of them more than once. Nobody has ever had a problem. I also run that fluid in my 750hp C5.

As mentioned above, this is my first session at RA in the BRZ and will be driven as such. Slow and smooth. Some of you guys must be some pretty outrageous weekend racers, which is fantastic. I'll pay attention to any fade, but I don't suspect any issues.

How about recommending some fluid that might be "better" on this track for next time?

EDIT: Robbie...not sure you're on the same page. I WILL be running ATE, it's already in the car. The folks above are saying it's not good enough.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Apex_BRZ

I have buddies with a race car on slicks, a BMW 540i, MazdaSpeed 3, C5 Vette, C6 Vette, and M3 all running that fluid. We go to RA each year, some of them more than once. Nobody has ever had a problem. I also run that fluid in my 750hp C5.

As mentioned above, this is my first session at RA in the BRZ and will be driven as such. Slow and smooth. Some of you guys must be some pretty outrageous weekend racers, which is fantastic. I'll pay attention to any fade, but I don't suspect any issues.

How about recommending some fluid that might be "better" on this track for next time?

EDIT: Robbie...not sure you're on the same page. I WILL be running ATE, it's already in the car. The folks above are saying it's not good enough.

Hmmm…. guess that slipped by me. I've never had any issues with ATE in my 944 Spec car.

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by Apex_BRZ

How about recommending some fluid that might be "better" on this track for next time?

My issues with ATE went away when I switched to Castrol SRF; later, I went to Prospeed RS683, and it worked well for me, too.

[canu_50]

ATE is really the minimum.. I personnaly run Gulf RF1000, which is equivalent to RBF660.

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Motul RBF600

[Apex_BRZ]

Awesome weekend! Car did fantastic. Never had any hint of brake fade whatsoever. Just as happy with the Carbotech's on this car as I am my ZO6. Loved the track too. First time running it.

Video from this weekend:

[ame="http://youtu.be/B4OXAAQl0vk"]http://youtu.be/B4OXAAQl0vk[/ame]

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Originally Posted by Apex_BRZ

Awesome weekend! Car did fantastic. Never had any hint of brake fade whatsoever. Just as happy with the Carbotech's on this car as I am my ZO6. Loved the track too. First time running it.

Video from this weekend:

That's a weird mounting position for the camera. Which Carbotechs were you running?

[Apex_BRZ]

Originally Posted by transition

That's a weird mounting position for the camera. Which Carbotechs were you running?

I like doing interior views. Works great in my Vette since the rear window is so close to the drivers. Not so well in the BRZ with the window further back and mirror in the way. . Trying a different spot next time.

I used Carbotech XP10 fronts and XP8 rears.

[transition]

Originally Posted by Apex_BRZ

I like doing interior views. Works great in my Vette since the rear window is so close to the drivers. Not so well in the BRZ with the window further back and mirror in the way. . Trying a different spot next time.

I used Carbotech XP10 fronts and XP8 rears.

I'm using Carbotech XP10's all around as well and love them. Great brakes.