Porsche Turbo enlightenment - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

kcam86 · 01-11-2014, 10:37 PM

So for the first time in a long time my thoughts on the path of what our car should be was sharpened all thanks to a Porsche turbo. The specific car that caused all this havoc for me has 635hp at the wheel and all sorts of suspension upgrades. When I drove it I experienced such acceleration that I felt like I had to babysit the car on the road not to get arrested and have the car impounded. It felt more like a chore to drive rather than a joy I experience everyday when I make my one hour commute each way everyday. Truthfully I look forward to the drive. Everyone speaks of driving this car 10 tenths legally and this rang so true when I drove the porsche. So the question that has been running through my head like a Kenyan in a marathon, is what are the thoughts on fi from people with it on their cars. Did it take away from the joy attributed to the pureness of our car as na? I'd love to hear pros and cons from personal experiences not some interweb professional keyboard racecar drivers. Thank you in advance.

wrxgoose · 01-11-2014, 10:42 PM

I think have having fi improved the car, since now it pulls smoothly. I also think that it didn't make the car too much to handle since at almost any time I can hit the gas and not be worried that it's not going to behave in an unexpected manner, the way I felt with my dad's old Porsche. It was an NA Porsche, but I always felt in the back of my mind that if I made any mistake, or didn't give smooth inputs, it'd wrap me around a tree. I don't feel that at all with the blower. I can try to be more in-depth when I get home and am not trying to post on a phone that's almost dead.

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BadMoon · 01-11-2014, 10:43 PM

Great review right here.

Basket Case · 01-11-2014, 10:44 PM

Driving a fast car fast I rewarding. I love pushing my dads 650 hp blown '83 vette. When I get back I feel like I won a contest of not dieing...no traction control=handfull

BadMoon · 01-11-2014, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Basket Case

Driving a fast car fast I rewarding. I love pushing my dads 650 hp blown '83 vette. When I get back I feel like I won a contest of not dieing...no traction control=handfull

I disagree. Driving a slow car fast is more rewarding.

993Fan · 01-11-2014, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BadMoon

I disagree. Driving a slow car fast is more rewarding.

Agreed. And driving a fast car slow is not much fun.

bestwheelbase · 01-11-2014, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 993Fan

Agreed. And driving a fast car slow is not much fun.

Agreed!

campy · 01-12-2014, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 993Fan

Agreed. And driving a fast car slow is not much fun.

Driving any car slowly isn't fun; driving any car fast is fun. It's just easier in a fast car.

kcam86 · 01-12-2014, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 993Fan

Agreed. And driving a fast car slow is not much fun.

This is the dilemma I have now and ty for all the input guys. Its just when is it too much were you start to think you can't really open your car up? As of right now I can feel like I'm driving a formula one car going on and off ramps then I loom down and I'm almost driving with in the legal speed limits. And I'm not a big fan of playing with the prospect of death especially on a public road. As much fun as the 600whp corvette sounds I dont think that's for me. When I drove the turbo it was like a god damn rocket ship but if I wasn't flooring it, it felt like I was doing it a disservice. I mean its a 180k before mods that it had but I could only utilize 1/10 of its potential. My burning question is where do most people find a happy equilibrium.

993Fan · 01-12-2014, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kcam86

My burning question is where do most people find a happy equilibrium.

Easy -- keep a high performance car for weekend canyon carving and track days and an FRS/BRZ for daily driving...

86-tundra · 01-12-2014, 01:12 AM

I like driving the FR-S at 100%.

IMO, FI is best used for those who are looking to track / race the car. Not for those looking to DD it.

OP sounds like you just DD it.

kcam86 · 01-12-2014, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 993Fan

Easy -- keep a high performance car for weekend canyon carving and track days and an FRS/BRZ for daily driving...

That would be nice haha. But can not afford two cars currently that's where the equilibrium question comes into play. I'm really curious what others have to say with what they did, wish they did or things they could of done differently to reach a happy median.

kcam86 · 01-12-2014, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by trevorovert

I like driving the FR-S at 100%.

IMO, FI is best used for those who are looking to track / race the car. Not for those looking to DD it.

OP sounds like you just DD it.

Primarily dd, you're correct but ive been slowly getting into tracking. Ive done one road course and I do an a auto x monthly.

Seattle944t · 01-12-2014, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BadMoon

I disagree. Driving a slow car fast is more rewarding.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 993Fan

Agreed. And driving a fast car slow is not much fun.

QFT

Driving a slow car fast is better than driving a fast car slow.

01-11-2014, 10:37 PM	#1
kcam86 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Asphalt FR-S MT Location: NE FL Posts: 162 Thanks: 33 Thanked 72 Times in 43 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Porsche Turbo enlightenment So for the first time in a long time my thoughts on the path of what our car should be was sharpened all thanks to a Porsche turbo. The specific car that caused all this havoc for me has 635hp at the wheel and all sorts of suspension upgrades. When I drove it I experienced such acceleration that I felt like I had to babysit the car on the road not to get arrested and have the car impounded. It felt more like a chore to drive rather than a joy I experience everyday when I make my one hour commute each way everyday. Truthfully I look forward to the drive. Everyone speaks of driving this car 10 tenths legally and this rang so true when I drove the porsche. So the question that has been running through my head like a Kenyan in a marathon, is what are the thoughts on fi from people with it on their cars. Did it take away from the joy attributed to the pureness of our car as na? I'd love to hear pros and cons from personal experiences not some interweb professional keyboard racecar drivers. Thank you in advance.

01-11-2014, 10:42 PM	#2
wrxgoose WUB WUB Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Firestorm Location: Charlotte Posts: 2,788 Thanks: 313 Thanked 1,573 Times in 858 Posts Mentioned: 52 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I think have having fi improved the car, since now it pulls smoothly. I also think that it didn't make the car too much to handle since at almost any time I can hit the gas and not be worried that it's not going to behave in an unexpected manner, the way I felt with my dad's old Porsche. It was an NA Porsche, but I always felt in the back of my mind that if I made any mistake, or didn't give smooth inputs, it'd wrap me around a tree. I don't feel that at all with the blower. I can try to be more in-depth when I get home and am not trying to post on a phone that's almost dead. Sent from my VS840 4G using Tapatalk __________________ Build thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40850 no more blower power

01-12-2014, 01:12 AM	#11
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