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Old 12-06-2013, 02:37 AM   #15
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I like how people talk about making the dealer their bitch and what not when scion has a no haggle price option. They don't change the price of the car. Maybe finance it different, but if it's 25,995, that's what it's gonna be. But it's a good thing to hear of people accomplishments...
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:41 AM   #16
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I like how people talk about making the dealer their bitch and what not when scion has a no haggle price option. They don't change the price of the car. Maybe finance it different, but if it's 25,995, that's what it's gonna be. But it's a good thing to hear of people accomplishments...
When it comes to car buying (and a plethora of other things) there is ALWAYS room for negotiation.

Always.
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:07 AM   #17
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I like how people talk about making the dealer their bitch and what not when scion has a no haggle price option. They don't change the price of the car. Maybe finance it different, but if it's 25,995, that's what it's gonna be. But it's a good thing to hear of people accomplishments...
California is a massively different market from Washington. Locally there are 25+ FRS marked up to over $30k and roughly the same listed under $26k with everything else falling in the middle.

http://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchr...AD&enableSeo=1

The only thing Pure Price guarantees is that the advertised price is the price you pay, the dealership is totally within their rights to place a $3,000 leather seat cover kit or $4,000 'aftermarket navigation' and those cars were selling (I passed on both). It's easy to say 'just go to another dealer' but when over 90% of the dealers within a 200 mile radius know that they can markup without repercussion (sorry sir we only sell cars with the $900 clear bra that only covers the front bumper) it's a pain in the ass.

Sorry, I was not happy with my buying experience at any Toyota dealership in the area, Pure Price was used against me (We have no control over what options are added, 'we're sorry' despite violating the contract we agreed to when you placed a deposit) and I pray I never walk onto a dealership lot again.

I'd like to think I was a simple customer, base FRS with a manual, no options for MSRP, I think I'd rather perform my own root canal than try to find another FRS in the area.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:26 AM   #18
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I like how people talk about making the dealer their bitch and what not when scion has a no haggle price option. They don't change the price of the car. Maybe finance it different, but if it's 25,995, that's what it's gonna be. But it's a good thing to hear of people accomplishments...
Got mine in early summer basically at a point dealers weren't expecting many/any more 2013s and knew what they had would go before the 14 models, basically terrible timing on my part, but I had a trade that needed to go before the transmission shit the bed. The dealer moved $500 off the "pure price". It's all they were willing to do on that end though.

More importantly after the hour or so of back and forth I got basically private sale equivalent on my trade which I needed a way to ditch, and the car had the display audio head unit in the dash and not charged on the window sticker.

End of the day net price is all that matters.
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:54 AM   #19
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Question: How can Russell Toyota Scion (MD) charge $22,494 for a brand new car?
Is that a scam to get you in the door and then add stuff on?
That price is lower than most of the used prices out there. In fact they have a used FR-S on their lot with 10k on it that they are charging more for than the new 22.4 car.
Your thoughts?
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:18 AM   #20
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Question: How can Russell Toyota Scion (MD) charge $22,494 for a brand new car?
Is that a scam to get you in the door and then add stuff on?
That price is lower than most of the used prices out there. In fact they have a used FR-S on their lot with 10k on it that they are charging more for than the new 22.4 car.
Your thoughts?
Sounds like a bait and switch to me.

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Question: How can Russell Toyota Scion (MD) charge $22,494 for a brand new car?
Is that a scam to get you in the door and then add stuff on?
That price is lower than most of the used prices out there. In fact they have a used FR-S on their lot with 10k on it that they are charging more for than the new 22.4 car.
Your thoughts?

The dealer may have more motivation to move the new car off the lot than used. In the last number of years slightly used certified cars end up right around the sticker price of a new vehicle.

Holdover, outside of season, etc.

Its not bait and switch till you inquire and they try pull shenanigans.

22.5 sounds about right for an advertised price on a holdover 25k sticker car.
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:11 AM   #23
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I used the car buying service from my credit union and ended up going through Toyota Vallejo as the dealer. I had excellent service and no hassle what so ever. I'd recommend them if you want to stay somewhat local. Not to far from Davis. They got exactly what I wanted and when my car was came in, they came and picked me up from San Ramon to take me to the dealership to get the car.
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I'm surprised even some 2014 is cheap in my area. 20121

Some auto are only 24-25k and manual is 23-24k.
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I would think if you live in CA and the dealers are such markup fiends like that, you could use a service like TrueCar or say Costco's services to get your vehicle instead.
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I would think if you live in CA and the dealers are such markup fiends like that, you could use a service like TrueCar or say Costco's services to get your vehicle instead.
i had run some different vehicles through true car this summer,

most models resulted in a 3 month peppering of emails from every dealer in the area

frs/brz resulted in radio silence
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:43 AM   #27
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Weird, my nearby Toyota/Scion dealer has four on the lot, black, two red, and I think a used hot lava one. All at list price, little/no markup. Guess there are benefits to living in the non cool parts of the states (Raleigh, NC)
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Old 12-08-2013, 07:07 PM   #28
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Since you're in Davis.... Longo Toyota isn't that far away.

That's where I buy all my Toyotas and my FRS. I got 1500 off MSRP for my FRS 10 series.
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