FRS Auto

[R.S-HawK]

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Bro, " What you are saying is, I usually point them the way of the PDK458 Italia and GTR with their DCT systems.

And to any automotive enthusiast, technician, Race driver.

You sound butt hurt... Because the 2 are not even in the same universe....
Should not even be brought up....

Get used to it.

And I specifically said they weren't direct comparisons, but that the concept remained the same.

If anyone is butt hurt, it sounds like that person would be you.

[R.S-HawK]

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Yes bro, Im butt hurt because I own a 6 spd frs...
You caught me...

Grow up...

[Demandred7]

Originally Posted by E403Q

Has anyone else gotten a auto frs or am I the only one hahahha just a bit curious. Parents bought the car so didnt really have an option. BTW what are the best ways to keep a black car clean as possible?

There are certainly far worse automatics to have and I certainly have no issues walking the back end out in roundabouts or corners. It is true that you can't dial in 4000 rpm and drop the clutch and get off the line quite as fast as a well driven manual. The good news is that not everyone is a good driver. I personally put it in semi-automatic most of the time.

Good luck keeping Raven clean. Definitely 2 bucket washing is a minimum. Black cars look awesome when they are clean, just tough to keep them that way.

[hur1ey02]

Mine stays clean when it is in the garage... well except the dust that magically appears. I don't have time to constantly wash it, and I drive at least 100 miles per day to / from work. It's rarely ever clean. haha

Mine is also an auto. Given my commute, I chose auto. It's my work car, so I knew my modifcations would be fairly limited. The auto does enough for me.

[Obja]

Team Auto Raven

[Byebye]

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Most people, ill agree. But not faster then I can. Most people cant heal/toe...
I can...

But the problem with auto is.

Its slower
You cant launch at 5000rpm.
You cant Shift lock, Drift.
You can hardly power over drift.
You cant feint, Drift.
What is this car? A road going drift car....

Auto in FRS defeats the purpose of why the car was made...
Attachment 55187

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3YivnuSLAI"]Club4AG's Scion FRS, Paddle Shift AT, Drift Testing - YouTube[/ame]

[Byebye]

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Most people, ill agree. But not faster then I can. Most people cant heal/toe...
I can...

But the problem with auto is.

Its slower
You cant launch at 5000rpm.
You cant Shift lock, Drift.
You can hardly power over drift.
You cant feint, Drift.
What is this car? A road going drift car....

Auto in FRS defeats the purpose of why the car was made...
Attachment 55187

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx8XH3w5hqc"]World's Fastest Automatic Subaru BRZ - 12.8@123 - YouTube[/ame]

[Byebye]

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Most people, ill agree. But not faster then I can. Most people cant heal/toe...
I can...

But the problem with auto is.

Its slower
You cant launch at 5000rpm.
You cant Shift lock, Drift.
You can hardly power over drift.
You cant feint, Drift.
What is this car? A road going drift car....

Auto in FRS defeats the purpose of why the car was made...
Attachment 55187

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsYIXNBENVY"]2013 Scion FR-S | Dynamic Rev Management Explained - YouTube[/ame]

[AznBRZer]

Originally Posted by Obja

Team Auto Raven

Don't forget your siblings: Team Auto Crystal Black Silica

[Tromatic]

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Again my hole gripe was the few posts that went way to far...

A bit like your opinions, no? There has not been an E-penis thread in a while so keep posting.

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Education is key here...

LOL. We wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[torqdork]

The first FR-S I drove was an A/T and was so impressed that I ordered a 10 Series M/T the same day b/c it's in my DNA that a car must have three pedals.

Now, with 3K miles and a few track days, I'm on the fence, the A/T is that good. It might be a little heavier and longer geared, but the 21st century paddle shifters, rev match and convenience make it a tossup if the $1K A/T premium fits in your budget. The biggest benefit to the A/T is one I haven't seen mentioned much, the torque converter's dampening of the midrange sag that's more noticeable, and annoying, on an M/T car. The A/T is a better DD, no need to double clutch on the 1-2 upshift waiting for the tranny lube to warm. Ultimately, it's a more practical car with the same or maybe better fun factor.

About detailing, IMO the polish step is most critical, it smooths the surface from mechanical and chemical contamination and with a good carnauba wax will be durable and reflective unless you run it through a car wash then all bets are off. The trick to a black car (I have one now) is to hit it before it gets too ragged with something like Griot's Speed Shine between washes.

http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/speed+shine.do

[Whitigir]

This Topic has been debated to Death.

Just a thing to keep in mind, most of the Racing Technology now come with A/T Paddle. An Example of a Super car that does it is GTR, then there is Ferrari, Lambo Blah...blah....if u are willing to look into it

The problem is how hard it is to get Older Generation to adapt to new Technology.

[Ammonia]

Opinion aside, here are the facts:

The automatic FRS is slower.
The gear changes are sluggish.

Here is my opinion, BASED on fact / experiences:

If you disagree on the sluggish gear changes, you haven't driven a proper steptronic.
I bought my BMW 135i in the automatic. Why? It is faster. Factually faster. Much easier to launch at the dragstrip, arguably easier to track, instant shifting, amazing amazing transmission. If the FRS had the same automatic tranny, I would have bought the auto. But I drove an automatic FRS. It's not as bad as the shifters in our Dodge Chargers that we sell, but nowhere remotely close to what I was used to in the BMW.

[Demandred7]

Originally Posted by Ammonia

Opinion aside, here are the facts:

The automatic FRS is slower.
The gear changes are sluggish.

Here is my opinion, BASED on fact / experiences:

If you disagree on the sluggish gear changes, you haven't driven a proper steptronic.
I bought my BMW 135i in the automatic. Why? It is faster. Factually faster. Much easier to launch at the dragstrip, arguably easier to track, instant shifting, amazing amazing transmission. If the FRS had the same automatic tranny, I would have bought the auto. But I drove an automatic FRS. It's not as bad as the shifters in our Dodge Chargers that we sell, but nowhere remotely close to what I was used to in the BMW.

I've never driven the 135i (the car's proportions just make the car look odd to me), but, the FR-S auto is not the worst. It is definitely better than my last two cars (Acura RSX and Corolla XRS). And while they are not the benchmark in automatic transmissions, they are my frame of reference. If the auto was total crap, I would have forced myself to learn stick.