Catalytic converter warranty denial by Subaru. 100% Stock engine!

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by celica73

Based on the FT86 Cup results where "CSG Mike" is listed followed by a bunch of lap times, I think it's safe to assume that the car was actually raced.

Timed events on RACE tracks are actually races (even if it's a time trial).

I appreciate what you are doing here, and agree a stock motor should hold up to the rigors of a time trial or 3, but I also think you are tilting at windmills.

We can also provide witnesses and owners, who will testify, that none of these results are in the CSG BRZ.

[forwallblakmail]

I feel that Subaru believes all of their cars are to be driven gingerly on the roads, by happy go lucky couples or families taking trips to national parts and petting grizzly bears or taking your dog to the K9 olymipics.

Then suddenly Ken Block showed up and every 18 year old kid with access to their parents credit card bought an STi, blew it up and asked them to rebuild it. I think they just assume anything weird going wrong on a car means that the owner had to be filming a Gymkana video or some shit and you took your neon green wheels off and brought the car in.

It's almost patronizing the customer by not warrantying items like this. They did the same shit to me when my axle was clicking.
Makes me wish I would have bought an FRS.

I hope it works out for you and CSG.

/rant.

[celek]

Originally Posted by kster1

Mike, are they more or less saying that the car's warranty has been voided due to track use?

Subaru has always had the MO
Register with SCCA pamphlet comes with your car.... Nope you autocrossed it your warranty is void

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by celek

Subaru has always had the MO
Register with SCCA pamphlet comes with your car.... Nope you autocrossed it your warranty is void

Free 1 year SCCA membership for the 2002 WRX if I recall.

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by Tim_Asphalt_FRS

I need you to teach me how to find all that.

Just click on the members name, read his profile, read his post, look at his pictures and follow the leads. Hell, I am an amateur. If I can do that, imagine what a car manufacturer, insurance company or law enforcement agency can do.

[tennisfreak]

I hope Scion/Toyota does not act like this if I ever have a problem with my FR-S.

FTR though if I were CSG Mike I'd be at a lawyer in a heartbeat. If the case looked strong enough a lawyer would pick it up and it would not cost me a dime (except the settlement fees after I won).

[dsgerbc]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

You can destroy cats with a lean condition because of high EGT. I would say since your engine was miss firing under load at high rpms.. You caused the cats to fail from the excessive heat under those conditions..
I'm not saying that's what exactly happened.. But it seems logical after seeing the damage done..

Paging all those who keep tracking their BRZs/FR-Ss after getting misfire CELs during the session.

[flippy]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

In addition to denying our warranty claim for our 100% stock engine, Subaru is throwing salt in the wound, and declining to warranty our catalytic converters. To clarify, this is Subaru of America denying the request for warranty coverage, not the dealer.

I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS 'MURICA! - Randy Marsh

[dsgerbc]

It's pretty obvious that Mike is yet to lawyer-up, otherwise the first thing the lawyer would've told him is to stop posting about this on the forums. I think this is a mistake. No matter who's right in this situation, Subaru's stance is likely motivated by making it extra hard to prove your case even if you're 100% in the right to discourage people who are not 100% in the right from even attempting to warrnty their very first blown engines.
Gonna have to lawyer-up, mate. Subaru won't take you seriously until the letters from you arrive on some "Iceberg & Steinberg, LLP" letterhead.

[dsgerbc]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I am the messenger.

Irrelevant. When the laywer tell the owner to shut up on the forums that's usually enough to quiet the messengers.

[KONVERTER]

Was there any physical damage to the cat housing?

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[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by KONVERTER

Was there any physical damage to the cat housing?

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Do you have a friend "KATALYTIC" by any chance?

[KONVERTER]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Do you have a friend "KATALYTIC" by any chance?

No.

But when I worked in the parts department at dealerships it was common for someone to come in asking for "Cadillac Converters"

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[Brett]

Originally Posted by dsgerbc

It's pretty obvious that Mike is yet to lawyer-up, otherwise the first thing the lawyer would've told him is to stop posting about this on the forums.

I agree. He's only providing more information and insight for his adversary. It's admirable that you want to share your story and prevent others from having problems, and I sure you just want to vent, but posting here is unlikely to help you, and has the potential to harm your position.

Best of luck.

Brett