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[captain_jack]

Originally Posted by Yruyur

Are you getting any of it analyzed?

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A dynatac 8000x chris would that thing even work on todays network..... lol made me laugh on a much needed hump day

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[thesleeper]

Anyone know of a good PDR guy?
I have quite a door ding on the passenger side...

[Yruyur]

Originally Posted by FR-Shadow

Does anyone else's 4th gear grind?

It grinds for me every time i down shift practically and when im above 4k and try to put it into 4th gear fast. The only time it doesnt grind is if i really hold in the clutch a long time and just let it slide in super slow.

I had my transmission clutch and flywheel replaced because of that in my first car.

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[FR-Shadow]

Originally Posted by captain_jack

That is not right..... could be a clutch engagement issue though. As in needs adjustment, it doesn't do it when your shifting from 3rd to 4th just 5th to 4th?

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both always when downshifting and when upshifting only when driving spiritly

Originally Posted by BugeyedWagon

Did you tear up the 4th gear synchro not understanding that the transmissions in these cars were "designed clunky?"

Not to bash, but this is pretty easy to do if you aren't careful while driving aggressively...

Originally Posted by Yruyur

I had my transmission clutch and flywheel replaced because of that in my first car.

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Looks like Im going to the dealer saturday to get this all checked out

[Sivtec]

Completely unrelated but has anyone seen the new gameplay trailer for GTA V? Uh... Wow... Epic... I can't remember the last time I was so excited about playing a game. Must have games of 2013, GTA and Watchdogs... The graphics these days are pretty astonishing...

[Ninjin]

Originally Posted by Yruyur

Are you getting any of it analyzed?

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A sample of the used Redline is on its way to Blackstone now. I'll probably pull a sample of the Motul at 10k miles for testing too. I want to see if the Motul has any effect on brass wear. It shouldn't, but there's a lot of FUD around its GL-5 rating and the EP additives.

Originally Posted by sdemo

Sooo, what's wrong with the stock fluid? Is "feel" the only issue here or are there premature failures of parts that can be linked back to the stock fluid?

For me there were two reasons why I didn't leave the stock fluid in: First was getting any break-in leftovers out of the transmission. The drain plug has a magnet that picks up most of the ferrous particles, but I wanted to minimize the amount of junk floating around in there and potentially causing any premature wear. Second reason was for feel. My transmission (like many others) didn't feel "right" on the stock fluid. Redline was better, and Motul has been better still. The shift action is much smoother to me, meaning there's an initial resistance as the shifter goes into position but it then engages smoothly with no other feedback. Whereas on stock fluid I could feel something interfacing as the shifter moved into position, after the initial resistance. It felt like the syncros weren't working quite enough, but it's hard to figure out from just the feel of the shift without having a lot more knowledge about how the transmission is built.

Originally Posted by FR-Shadow

Does anyone else's 4th gear grind?

It grinds for me every time i down shift practically and when im above 4k and try to put it into 4th gear fast. The only time it doesnt grind is if i really hold in the clutch a long time and just let it slide in super slow.

Is it an audible, noisy grind or just something you can feel in the shift lever?

[sdemo]

Originally Posted by Ninjin

For me there were two reasons why I didn't leave the stock fluid in: First was getting any break-in leftovers out of the transmission. The drain plug has a magnet that picks up most of the ferrous particles, but I wanted to minimize the amount of junk floating around in there and potentially causing any premature wear. Second reason was for feel. My transmission (like many others) didn't feel "right" on the stock fluid. Redline was better, and Motul has been better still. The shift action is much smoother to me, meaning there's an initial resistance as the shifter goes into position but it then engages smoothly with no other feedback. Whereas on stock fluid I could feel something interfacing as the shifter moved into position, after the initial resistance. It felt like the syncros weren't working quite enough, but it's hard to figure out from just the feel of the shift without having a lot more knowledge about how the transmission is built.

I was attributing the notchy feel of the FRS / BRZ to the linkage system of the gearbox. Coming from a 150k mile 1995 Miata (with Redline in the trans and a shifter that sits directly inside the transmission - no linkage), I knew I wasn't going to find this car "smooth." I'm contemplating a shifter bushing upgrade and a bit heavier knob, but it's good to know that a fluid swap does help the situation a bit.

Keep tinkering... I'll sit back with my beer and let you tell me what's good, lol.

[FR-Shadow]

Originally Posted by Ninjin

Is it an audible, noisy grind or just something you can feel in the shift lever?

I can hear it every time. It sounds like when you miss a gear grind.

[mattles]

yea, this is definitely the most clunkly/thunky Aisin box Ive ever used. But, Ive never had a grind unless I missed a shift (which happens because the damn transmission moves around too much under high loads-- reminds me I need all of those various whiteline/perrin shifter braces and mounts/inserts/etc.)
If its grinding, Id definitely take it in for warranty work, return the car to stock beforehand definitely.

[FR-Shadow]

Originally Posted by mattles

yea, this is definitely the most clunkly/thunky Aisin box Ive ever used. But, Ive never had a grind unless I missed a shift (which happens because the damn transmission moves around too much under high loads-- reminds me I need all of those various whiteline/perrin shifter braces and mounts/inserts/etc.)
If its grinding, Id definitely take it in for warranty work, return the car to stock beforehand definitely.

Returning it to stock is way to much of a hassle right now. I have no mods done to the drivetrain that would void a warranty. I have an appointment this afternoon to get checked out at big two.

[jeffsides]

@redsuns03. It's yours whenever. No rush

[edgary]

Originally Posted by Ninjin

So uh, at the risk of taking this discussion off topic by actually talking about cars, I changed my transmission fluid this weekend.

I went from stock -> Redline MT-90 at 900 miles and this past weekend changed to Motul Gear 300.

I've noticed that shifting with the Motul feels smoother than the Redline (especially 3rd gear for me). It's not totally free of resistance, but it feels more like I think a transmission should. So if anyone is thinking about doing a fluid change, I would recommend the Motul over the Redline (they both feel better than stock though).

P.S. Motul is also great because the awesome bottle design makes it very easy to put the new fluid in. No pumping required!

How about second gear? I know quite a few people have complained about second gear being hard to engage, but this is on cold weather only (or, mostly)... I guess we'll have to wait until winter for this test.

Next time we see each other, I want to test your car against mine, which still has the stock fluid.

[EZWood]

Just saw that 5 axis white frs in maracopa parked at a firestation.

[Ninjin]

@FR-Shadow if it's making a lot of noise then something is definitely wrong. It'll be interesting to hear what the dealership has to say.

Originally Posted by edgary

How about second gear? I know quite a few people have complained about second gear being hard to engage, but this is on cold weather only (or, mostly)... I guess we'll have to wait until winter for this test.

Next time we see each other, I want to test your car against mine, which still has the stock fluid.

Second and fifth aren't perfect, especially on a cold start. However, even on stock fluid I was always able to get into gear it was never undriveable for me like some forum members have reported. @sdemo and @mattles bring up good points about shifter linkage and transmission movement changing the feel from other Aisin transmissions. Anyone is welcome to take my car for a spin to see if they like how the different fluid makes the transmission feel (or if it's the same and I'm imagining it all)

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