2013 FRS Reliability?

[Djratrap]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Wasn't that issue only really effecting the 2013s? plus it hasn't been updated in 3 months with the latest sale figures

I've seen some 2014s on the thread. So i don't think those are safe either.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Djratrap

I've seen some 2014s on the thread. So i don't think those are safe either.

That's still an extremely small percentage if you do the math

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

280 out of 54263 cars sold is a 0.5% failure rate, if only 50% of cars were reported we are talking about literally 99% of cars have not had this issue.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10766

And that percentage goes even lower assuming some of those 280 didn't have a complete "failure"

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Djratrap

I've seen some 2014s on the thread. So i don't think those are safe either.

As @strat61caster explained its still a small amount, it's still under the "bad batch of cookies analogy assuming that only 31 out of 280 actually were unrepairable after multiple repair attempts or failed completely or burned to the ground. So if up to 55000 have been already sold (even more so now as thats an older figure by a month or two). That's still around 0.05% that are total losses, I really see no massive issue as Toyota have always attempted repairs for the vehicles under warranty as well.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Djratrap

I've seen some 2014s on the thread. So i don't think those are safe either.

Some of the "14s" were, of course, made fairly early in 13 so they may have the issue.
Any 14s made after the problem was fixed should be fine.
Mine has a build date of May 14 so would be one of the last 14 runs before they switched to the 15s and I have never had a single issue.

[Djratrap]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

As @strat61caster explained its still a small amount, it's still under the "bad batch of cookies analogy assuming that only 31 out of 280 actually were unrepairable after multiple repair attempts or failed completely or burned to the ground. So if up to 55000 have been already sold (even more so now as thats an older figure by a month or two). That's still around 0.05% that are total losses, I really see no massive issue as Toyota have always attempted repairs for the vehicles under warranty as well.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see when guys start hitting the 100k mark. I suspect a lot of leaky head gaskets, but hopefully nothing major.

[radroach]

I'm at 40k miles the car has shown me that it's pretty tough. Only problem I've ever had was a weird VVT noise after long road trips, would hear some sort of metallic rapping of sorts from the engine. It didn't ever sound like something was damaged, just loud and whirry for a moment. Went away though and hasn't come back in 10k miles.

[NOHOME]

It is too early to really know. I figure the first 5 years are the honeymoon with a new car. How it behaves over the next 5 is the real indicator of reliability and cost to operate.

The engine seems to be an unknown at this point and both reliability and longevity are to be determined.

My observation after 2 winters is that there wont be much left of the undersides of this car after winter #10. Sound deadening, sealant and coatings were minimized in the quest for low weight. And I DO oil coat the underside.

I would reconsider buying a 2013. There were some niggling issues with the early cars, and if one is on the market so soon, I can't help but wonder if it is not from a fed-up owner. Head over to the warranties section of this board to see what might apply. Do a search for "Crickets" for one of the worst offenders along with bad shifting, direct injector seal failure and slow gearboxes.

I believe that 2014 saw most of the issues resolved.

[DarkSunrise]

I've had my 2013 for a little over 2 years. Bought it new and it's got around 16,000 miles now. Roughly 1,000 of those were at the track. It's done a few autocrosses as well.

The car's been pretty reliable all things considered. Had the rough idle CEL fixed by re-flash early on. Need to get one of my window switches replaced as the auto function is not consistent.

Other than that, no real issues. The transmission was very notchy early on, but that seems to have fixed itself over time and with better shifts.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by NOHOME

I would reconsider buying a 2013. There were some niggling issues with the early cars, and if one is on the market so soon, I can't help but wonder if it is not from a fed-up owner.
I believe that 2014 saw most of the issues resolved.

The fact that any brand new platform has issues is not a new thing and it probably killed some potently great cars over the years.
My dad had one of the very first Jeep Cherokees to roll off the line and he didn't even get it a block from the dealer before the serious issues started. It didn't get better either.
There is a price we pay for wanting to be the first to have something new on the market.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Djratrap

I guess we'll just have to wait and see when guys start hitting the 100k mark. I suspect a lot of leaky head gaskets, but hopefully nothing major.

Why head gaskets?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Why head gaskets?

Ya, I was wondering that as well but too shy to ask.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Ya, I was wondering that as well but too shy to ask.

Yea its a totally irrelevant issue I haven't seen one car with any issues involving the head gasket he might be talking out of his ass lol

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Yea its a totally irrelevant issue I haven't seen one car with any issues involving the head gasket he might be talking out of his ass lol

Or not. He may have something there (even though not the same engine)


http://www.licmotorsports.com/blog/2...d-gasket-issue


http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/...gasket-issues/