Boost, N/A or trade her in ?

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by Sleepless

Drive your Prius for a few days between hopping in the 86

Lol, honest truth- I used to own an e36 m3 and a gen 1 rx7 (carbed 12a). If I got bored of the bmw, I'd thrash around in the Mazda (fun in its own way) for a few days. After that the bmw felt like a rocket


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[strat61caster]

I was meh on the car after two years, if it got totaled I would have bought something else. My primary complaint was the understeer.

Then I bought camber plates this past summer. All of a sudden the front end gripped and the car was actually balanced and I fell in love. Imo I would be pretty happy with the car for a long time with camber modifications (both camber plates and camber bolts, it really likes over -3 degrees on stick suspension) and good Brake pads and alignment and nothing else.

Just my experience.

[Boofneenee]

I can't imagine the ej sti motor being a time bomb. I feel like those stories occur when people modify that engine.

Don't turbo the car unless your ready to really taks on a forever project. You'll never be happy and shit brakes.

The frs is an interesting ride to say the least. When I get out of my 15 wrx and back into the frs I remember all over again why I bought it. It certainly is an involved ride and not as relaxed or comfortable. Ringing out that engine to squeeze every bit of power is just a good time. Certainly more dramatic than hammering the throttle of a higher powered car.

I'll tell you right now you will be hard pressed to find a car that feels as connected as the frs other than a miata or porshe maybe.

The ford focus rs is supposed to have a base model for about 35k. I'd also like to add that the 2015 wrx is pretty mean. So much power. The new chassis really stiffens the ride.

[86 South Africa]

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

A turbo really makes this car come alive in a way I have not seen in other low powered sports cars. It really makes the car better in all aspects which is rare.

Yeah, I've been lucky enough to drive or ride in 2 diff FI cars... As the media/journalists kept saying when they launched the car - the chassis can really handle much more than stock power. Awesome job by toybaru.

[86 South Africa]

Just get a Ferrari. Or a new mx5, and then a Cayman for track days.
Lol.

If you don't like the fa20, then a bit of boost won't solve the problem. You'll be bored of it again... Unless of course you do spend tons of cash and time on quality stuff, tuning, etc.

Do you want a project or do you want speed? Doesn't sound like the cash is the issue.

[Deep Six]

Originally Posted by MrSlay

As of now thats the plan.

Objective is to make the car "fun" again. I've been getting bored with it and wanted to know the community's opinion on whether it makes sense to turbo the car in attempt to make good power. General vibe that I came away with is that its not the best idea to try an make a FA20 a highway performer. I came to my senses and agreed when multiple people reminded me that spending 20k to make 600whp is pointless when my ISF makes more power and is faster for a fraction of the price.

So.... I decided that full suspension mods accompanied by full bolt-ons is going to be the best route to take.

I think you will be pleased. As a track car it has a split personality, great trainer in stock form for beginners and really wakes up with basic mods. In my opinion the three things to change first are
Front camber -3
Rear toe 0
E85 plus header for 200+rwhp


Assuming you have decent grip tires, the car will be much quicker around the track and much easier to drive fast as well. I would also recommended cooling upgrades as well considering where you live.

[Apoc]

Since this is the Forced Induction section, boost is the answer.

[ultra]

You're doing it wrong, OP.

Find a really good road, AutoX, track day or drift event and drive the nuts off your car. TheN come back and post again.

If you're just into big lazy power then this is the wrong car for you. Sure. Lost would make it more fun but at heart this car is built to turn and be driven hard, plain and simple.

This is the lest powerful car I've ever owned but it's by far the best driver's car. It's light and balanced - with minor upgrades to the rubber, brakes and alignment you can thrash it at the track all day long without being too hard on the brakes or tires. The harder you drive the better it gets. It teaches you things in the process too.

Many other great street cars, by contrast, tend to fall flat on their faces when driven hard, without very extensive mods. They rub the shoulders off the front tires, fry pads and rotors to an insane degree and tend to not be able to go half as long before they fall on their faces.

Change up the way you drive it and see before you change cars, IMO.

[Gutterboy]

just barely went from stock to some recent upgrades

you can easily get rid of the bored factor with a good tiny budget.

upgrade your stock header and you get rid of a big part of that annoying torque dip which brings some big fun back into the car with some noticeable gains and some extra growl.

after the header go to stage 2 with an OFT off the shelf tune and get some much improved throttle response with a soft rev limiter and if you stay on the tiny stock primacy tires you'll have lots of sliding fun with the new torque.

after that get your name on the list for a phantom supercharger for the extra major bump on the hp and torque.

if you still don't think its enough after those budget mods compared to the full turbo set up you'll have a lineup of people trying to buy that thing off you while switch to the new camaro v6 that sounds amazing or go straight to a vette or maybe a nismo GTR.

anyways lots of opinions out there but in the rare chance this helps...



good luck

[hmong337]

For me, I'd chuck an Edelbrock SC on there, leave it in the 280whp range and go chase Porsche 911's at the track.

Sounds like you want a street car with a shit ton of power. The C6Z06 is probably the best thing you can get in the $40k range or less.

[MrSlay]

Originally Posted by Gutterboy

just barely went from stock to some recent upgrades

you can easily get rid of the bored factor with a good tiny budget.

upgrade your stock header and you get rid of a big part of that annoying torque dip which brings some big fun back into the car with some noticeable gains and some extra growl.

after the header go to stage 2 with an OFT off the shelf tune and get some much improved throttle response with a soft rev limiter and if you stay on the tiny stock primacy tires you'll have lots of sliding fun with the new torque.

after that get your name on the list for a phantom supercharger for the extra major bump on the hp and torque.

if you still don't think its enough after those budget mods compared to the full turbo set up you'll have a lineup of people trying to buy that thing off you while switch to the new camaro v6 that sounds amazing or go straight to a vette or maybe a nismo GTR.

anyways lots of opinions out there but in the rare chance this helps...



good luck

Im waiting on BRZedit to work with 64bit windows 10 so I can put the NA goodies on the FRS. Once I can tune my car with new bolt-ons I think its going to be hella fun.

... Was very close to getting a GTR but got really lucky finding a specific spec 09 997.1 turbo. Although I picked it up on tuesday and its only been a couple of days, im in love

http://imgur.com/zguTtyD

[GsxrMe]

Man some people are still comparing new car crank hp to boosted rwhp. A boosted +/- 300 rwhp brz is a blast. It's nearly double the hp from factory and just a little faster than a 5.0 mustang or SS Camaro.

If you buying a base model frs and slap a real FI kit on your car you'll be still cheaper and faster than a v8. You'll also be different and turn heads. Rear ends on the big v8's are also geared differently, longer gears, heavier and everyone has one.

My buds brand spanking new mustang 5.0 pulled 345wrhp on the dyno and I can out pull him, over and over again. Don't let the sticker with CRANK hp fool you.

Boost your car but if you don't know how to work on it find someone that can and knows how.

Mustang gt without all the goodies is 34k out the door. *fart*

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by GsxrMe

Man some people are still comparing new car crank hp to boosted rwhp. A boosted +/- 300 rwhp brz is a blast. It's nearly double the hp from factory and just a little faster than a 5.0 mustang or SS Camaro.

If you buying a base model frs and slap a real FI kit on your car you'll be still cheaper and faster than a v8. You'll also be different and turn heads. Rear ends on the big v8's are also geared differently, longer gears, heavier and everyone has one.

My buds brand spanking new mustang 5.0 pulled 345wrhp on the dyno and I can out pull him, over and over again. Don't let the sticker with CRANK hp fool you.

Boost your car but if you don't know how to work on it find someone that can and knows how.

Mustang gt without all the goodies is 34k out the door. *fart*

No. So....much... misinformation.

[FRS Justin]

Have you considered a final drive swap? Even tho you are not adding hp and tq to the engine a final drive swap can make the car come alive. Just remember when it comes to final drives you can't have it both ways. What you put on the bottom comes off the top. Approx a 1000 bucks to get someone reputable such as Weir performance or Spencer Fab to install. Footnote gearing is not going to even come close to feeling like 450 hp engine.


You could buy a mustang or a Camaro and get that sucked in the seat feeling in the straights but you will give up all that ability hug the corners like the 86, Go rent a mustang see after a week if its still the same amount of fun. good luck