Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll. - Page 144 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

BunnyRZed · 06-11-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Take a video on your phone of the chirps. They can't deny that. If they do, then they are jerks and find a new dealership that actually cares.

Good idea, I'll do this when it's chirping loud again.

BunnyRZed · 06-11-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Carwhisperer

There isn't a "fix" for the chirping. Its not the HPFP or atleast the ones they are replacing peoples with. Just be patient.

Apparently people are having better luck with the HPFP with the green dot on the box. If they are to fix this issue for 2014, I would bet they would have a revised HPFP by now hence the one with the green dot?

BadMoon · 06-11-2013, 09:55 PM

I just found my build date. I bought the car about 3 weeks ago but it was built in December. I really hope they fix it on Friday.

NIKOLA · 06-12-2013, 12:19 AM

You know.....I have read the Service Bulletins from Scion and Suburu. What I have concluded after the nice explanation Suburu wrote up in their bulletin is that the problem is primarily heat. This High Pressure Fuel Pump is located right on the engine. The engine is quiet when it is just turned on and is cool. Once at or near operating temperature the chirping starts, but only when the engine is idle. Seems to me that perhaps the alcohol in the gas is evaporating concurrently as the fuel is moving through the pump. Hence, causing the chirping noise. When you rev the engine or drive the chirp nearly instantly stops. I feel that is because the fuel is still relatively cool and the alcohol did not evaporate. Yeah, I know it's a long shot of an idea or explanation, but it seems to make sense. I wonder if a heat shield can be installed somehow around the pump and pump mount to keep it father from the engine so that it does not heat up? Also, does alcohol free gas really help remove the chirp? I have to witness it first.

CBR600RR · 06-12-2013, 12:22 AM

^ I believe so yes.

When I get shell v power (ethanol free here in Canada) I have no chirps, however, if I go for any other high octane fuel the chirps come back.

Kosmos · 06-12-2013, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NIKOLA

You know.....I have read the Service Bulletins from Scion and Suburu. What I have concluded after the nice explanation Suburu wrote up in their bulletin is that the problem is primarily heat. This High Pressure Fuel Pump is located right on the engine. The engine is quiet when it is just turned on and is cool. Once at or near operating temperature the chirping starts, but only when the engine is idle. Seems to me that perhaps the alcohol in the gas is evaporating concurrently as the fuel is moving through the pump. Hence, causing the chirping noise. When you rev the engine or drive the chirp nearly instantly stops. I feel that is because the fuel is still relatively cool and the alcohol did not evaporate. Yeah, I know it's a long shot of an idea or explanation, but it seems to make sense. I wonder if a heat shield can be installed somehow around the pump and pump mount to keep it father from the engine so that it does not heat up? Also, does alcohol free gas really help remove the chirp? I have to witness it first.

Seems legit. i remember having chirps then after hauling **** on the interstate and coming to a stop i had a moment of silence, but shortly the chirps came back.

Accurate Race Shop · 06-12-2013, 02:34 AM

My crickets are dying. I'm a little over 20k miles and have had the pump changed 3 times (before we all knew it wouldn't fix anything) and they have been really loud the last month now they are really quiet and much more random. I've tested it with the a/c on and off but they are definitely trying to go away. Not sure what brought this on I'll keep everyone updated on what happens, in the next few weeks

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Carlysh · 06-12-2013, 03:21 AM

So we have to worried about the cricket and them we have to worried about the direct injector leaks that could cause engine failure?

FR-S Matt · 06-12-2013, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlysh

So we have to worried about the cricket and them we have to worried about the direct injector leaks that could cause engine failure?

No, and no.

People freak out when one thing happens to them and think everyone will have that problem.

Crickets don't harm anything, its simply an annoyance.

The DI issue is a one off. Several thousands do not have that issue.

boredom.is.me · 06-12-2013, 08:52 AM

Check out my newly posted thread. My crickets grew up and became healthy woodpeckers!
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38954

Scionshaun · 06-12-2013, 09:17 AM

Got my car a month ago built in sept 2013 as well, while sitting at a drive thru at Starbucks I heard the crickets chirping, normal or no?! It goes away and comes back sometimes. Does the dealer contact us or do we have to be a pain in their ass to fix it, of course it's still on them since it's still under warranty.

BadMoon · 06-12-2013, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Scionshaun

Got my car a month ago built in sept 2013 as well, while sitting at a drive thru at Starbucks I heard the crickets chirping, normal or no?! It goes away and comes back sometimes. Does the dealer contact us or do we have to be a pain in their ass to fix it, of course it's still on them since it's still under warranty.

So you have a 2014 model?

Carlysh · 06-12-2013, 07:45 PM

Alright thanks plans on getting the car late this month or earley july thanks

Scionshaun · 06-13-2013, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BadMoon

So you have a 2014 model?

Lol 2012 sorry

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06-11-2013, 09:55 PM	#2005
BadMoon Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2014 GLI Autobahn/Nav Location: Central PA Posts: 551 Thanks: 118 Thanked 356 Times in 167 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just found my build date. I bought the car about 3 weeks ago but it was built in December. I really hope they fix it on Friday.

06-12-2013, 12:19 AM	#2006
NIKOLA Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S in Ultramarine Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 80 Thanks: 28 Thanked 22 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You know.....I have read the Service Bulletins from Scion and Suburu. What I have concluded after the nice explanation Suburu wrote up in their bulletin is that the problem is primarily heat. This High Pressure Fuel Pump is located right on the engine. The engine is quiet when it is just turned on and is cool. Once at or near operating temperature the chirping starts, but only when the engine is idle. Seems to me that perhaps the alcohol in the gas is evaporating concurrently as the fuel is moving through the pump. Hence, causing the chirping noise. When you rev the engine or drive the chirp nearly instantly stops. I feel that is because the fuel is still relatively cool and the alcohol did not evaporate. Yeah, I know it's a long shot of an idea or explanation, but it seems to make sense. I wonder if a heat shield can be installed somehow around the pump and pump mount to keep it father from the engine so that it does not heat up? Also, does alcohol free gas really help remove the chirp? I have to witness it first.

06-12-2013, 12:22 AM	#2007
CBR600RR Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Raven Black Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,343 Thanks: 451 Thanked 563 Times in 276 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ I believe so yes. When I get shell v power (ethanol free here in Canada) I have no chirps, however, if I go for any other high octane fuel the chirps come back.

06-12-2013, 09:17 AM	#2013
Scionshaun Aloha! Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Whiteout Location: Oak Creek, Wisconsin & Alameda, California Posts: 136 Thanks: 34 Thanked 23 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Got my car a month ago built in sept 2013 as well, while sitting at a drive thru at Starbucks I heard the crickets chirping, normal or no?! It goes away and comes back sometimes. Does the dealer contact us or do we have to be a pain in their ass to fix it, of course it's still on them since it's still under warranty.

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