Turbo Build - Goal 300whp at best bang for buck

[kmbkk]

Originally Posted by SON1C

Are there other kits I didn't post you would recommend as well?

I'm looking for a 300whp setup that is absolutely reliable -- I know I'll end up going for more power down the road but it may be 2 years to where getting ready for that now could be a waste. 300 to the wheels on pump gas will certainly make me happy for awhile and then I can keep it from becoming a money pit... Or trying! Lol

I'm running the Treadstone kit (BW EFR6258 turbo) and have been very happy with it. I'm at 300 whp and DD to/from work. I have 37k miles on it with no issues.

[RD1428]

Speed by design kit hands down. The v2 runs 10psi, and it costs 3k free shipping I've seen a good amount of guys hit 290-300 whp. Easy to do yourself as well.

[RD1428]

I could probably even help you install it considering you are in northern VA.

[Readytoxplod]

Total cost, everything out the door with labor, shipping, tax, etc costs 8-15k easy with a 4-6k turbo kit. 12-13k out the door is normal, I got quoted 14.5k with a FBM base kit and all the goodies I will mention, plus labor. Keep that in mind when wanting F.I.

Turbo kit-5000
Cast oil pan if you aren't a welder- 350
Turbo kit installation-1,300
Thermal coating to keep heat down- 300
Gauges are 200-600, 300 for AEM failsafe
Gauge mounts are 50-250, 180 for a good one because they have to be custom made
Installation of gauges- 300
Clutch- 500-700
Clutch install is 500-850 for a 7.1 hour job (you will need a clutch for sure at 300whp, 275...maybe not),
Oil cooler to keep temps down- 650
Oil cooler install-300
Radiator- 330
Radiator install- 300
Ecutek tune- 500
Ecutek cable- 300
Tax was like 500

$11,960 + other stuff

Now do the math.
Add in fluids and oil, exhaust wrap, turbo blanket, and shipping too and it gets up there easy! If you want to do the install yourself, factor in the cost of tools.
Then if you want full exhaust it will be another chunk of change, 2 grand. For kits, SBD is gonna be the cheapest, but FBM, P tuning, and JDL are a good bit better quality though and will keep good resale. Like someone above said, supercharged is a lot cheaper, it's basically just the kit and installations are a whole lot easier/take less time. Downsides though are that you don't have much room for growth & more power above 300whp. Most kits get you 220-250 whp, up to 280. It's sad it costs so much, but if you want a boosted twin you gotta pay to play!

[geolit]

Have you guys heard of the Crawford Plus 100 kit? As the name suggests, it adds around 100+ whp to the car and was created to be used with a stock car. Apparently it is very good, and the curve looks nice as well. Haven't seen it irl tho. Please lmk if you've had experience with it.

Here's a link: http://crawfordperformance.com/produ...100-turbo-kit/

[Carlysh]

Originally Posted by Readytoxplod

Total cost, everything out the door with labor, shipping, tax, etc costs 8-15k easy with a 4-6k turbo kit. 12-13k out the door is normal, I got quoted 14.5k with a FBM base kit and all the goodies I will mention, plus labor. Keep that in mind when wanting F.I.

Turbo kit-5000
Cast oil pan if you aren't a welder- 350
Turbo kit installation-1,300
Thermal coating to keep heat down- 300
Gauges are 200-600, 300 for AEM failsafe
Gauge mounts are 50-250, 180 for a good one because they have to be custom made
Installation of gauges- 300
Clutch- 500-700
Clutch install is 500-850 for a 7.1 hour job (you will need a clutch for sure at 300whp, 275...maybe not),
Oil cooler to keep temps down- 650
Oil cooler install-300
Radiator- 330
Radiator install- 300
Ecutek tune- 500
Ecutek cable- 300
Tax was like 500

$11,960 + other stuff

Now do the math.
Add in fluids and oil, exhaust wrap, turbo blanket, and shipping too and it gets up there easy! If you want to do the install yourself, factor in the cost of tools.
Then if you want full exhaust it will be another chunk of change, 2 grand. For kits, SBD is gonna be the cheapest, but FBM, P tuning, and JDL are a good bit better quality though and will keep good resale. Like someone above said, supercharged is a lot cheaper, it's basically just the kit and installations are a whole lot easier/take less time. Downsides though are that you don't have much room for growth & more power above 300whp. Most kits get you 220-250 whp, up to 280. It's sad it costs so much, but if you want a boosted twin you gotta pay to play!

This is why sometimes i say to my self if it is woth investing all that money in a new car or you can buy a s2k,e46 m3,build a kmiata lots of other cars
sometimes i say sell my car and buy one already boosted

[Cockatoo]

I love my SBD kit!

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by geolit

Have you guys heard of the Crawford Plus 100 kit? As the name suggests, it adds around 100+ whp to the car and was created to be used with a stock car. Apparently it is very good, and the curve looks nice as well. Haven't seen it irl tho. Please lmk if you've had experience with it.

Here's a link: http://crawfordperformance.com/produ...100-turbo-kit/

Junk

[kch]

Originally Posted by geolit

Have you guys heard of the Crawford Plus 100 kit? As the name suggests, it adds around 100+ whp to the car and was created to be used with a stock car. Apparently it is very good, and the curve looks nice as well. Haven't seen it irl tho. Please lmk if you've had experience with it.

Here's a link: http://crawfordperformance.com/produ...100-turbo-kit/

There are other kits that produce more power for less money. Also, that crawford kit seems to require E85 for what little power it provides.

Their dynos are questionable. But even assuming 250whp on E85 (which is generous), several less-expensive kits will support 350whp on E85. That's a huge difference.

[totopo]

Don't you need new trans and axles as well if you want reliable? Isnt a used Cayman a lot more reliable and economical than a turbo brz?

[SON1C]

Originally Posted by RD1428

Speed by design kit hands down. The v2 runs 10psi, and it costs 3k free shipping I've seen a good amount of guys hit 290-300 whp. Easy to do yourself as well.

Originally Posted by RD1428

I could probably even help you install it considering you are in northern VA.

Are you running that kit as well? I'm in Fairfax (Burke 22039) - you're always welcome!

[SON1C]

Originally Posted by Cockatoo

I love my SBD kit!

Can you tell me more about your experience with it? Did you install yourself, what did you add in conjunction to the kit, what ended up being your total price otd, would you do it again or go with a different setup? Also lets see some pictures!

[SON1C]

Originally Posted by kmbkk

I'm running the Treadstone kit (BW EFR6258 turbo) and have been very happy with it. I'm at 300 whp and DD to/from work. I have 37k miles on it with no issues.

Awesome to hear of almost 40k miles and zero issues at basically 5 grand certainly in the ball park of other "premium" kits --- what did you add in addition to the kit?



Pictures for reference and also those too lazy to search! Lol

[SON1C]

Originally Posted by Readytoxplod

Total cost, everything out the door with labor, shipping, tax, etc costs 8-15k easy with a 4-6k turbo kit. 12-13k out the door is normal, I got quoted 14.5k with a FBM base kit and all the goodies I will mention, plus labor. Keep that in mind when wanting F.I.

Turbo kit-5000
Cast oil pan if you aren't a welder- 350
Turbo kit installation-1,300
Thermal coating to keep heat down- 300
Gauges are 200-600, 300 for AEM failsafe
Gauge mounts are 50-250, 180 for a good one because they have to be custom made
Installation of gauges- 300
Clutch- 500-700
Clutch install is 500-850 for a 7.1 hour job (you will need a clutch for sure at 300whp, 275...maybe not),
Oil cooler to keep temps down- 650
Oil cooler install-300
Radiator- 330
Radiator install- 300
Ecutek tune- 500
Ecutek cable- 300
Tax was like 500

$11,960 + other stuff

Now do the math.
Add in fluids and oil, exhaust wrap, turbo blanket, and shipping too and it gets up there easy! If you want to do the install yourself, factor in the cost of tools.
Then if you want full exhaust it will be another chunk of change, 2 grand. For kits, SBD is gonna be the cheapest, but FBM, P tuning, and JDL are a good bit better quality though and will keep good resale. Like someone above said, supercharged is a lot cheaper, it's basically just the kit and installations are a whole lot easier/take less time. Downsides though are that you don't have much room for growth & more power above 300whp. Most kits get you 220-250 whp, up to 280. It's sad it costs so much, but if you want a boosted twin you gotta pay to play!

Excellent input, thank you.

I was leaning towards s/c route due to it being cheaper but the torque is just so much better on the turbos for these car it makes it a no brainer for my goals.

I'm going to install as much as I can, however several things are probably out of my capabilities so I'd either need a good bit of help or to take it to a shop. Really trying to build the car with my hands though regardless of the headaches lol

Any general consensus on full exhaust for these? I want a great sound but I daily drive so minimal drone is obviously my goal. 3" seems necessary size