Myth of blown shocks? - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

strat61caster · 10-14-2015, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

It really applies to any car, but I haven't seen it happen under "normal" usage with this car.

"normal" = track time or no track time?

Mr.ac · 10-14-2015, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

Only from a fitment perspective.

As mentioned already, just because it fits does not mean it is designed that way. Lowering springs may be designed to fit in OE strut housings, however the OE strut is not designed with lowering springs in mind.

-alex

Not really, proof: TRD / STI springs.

CSG Mike · 10-14-2015, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

"normal" = track time or no track time?

street driving, like a normal person.

mav1178 · 10-14-2015, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Not really, proof: TRD / STI springs.

So tell me: what about those springs and the struts they were paired with makes it acceptable?

Mr.ac · 10-15-2015, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

So tell me: what about those springs and the struts they were paired with makes it acceptable?

Simple answer: covered under factory warranty.
Long answer: factory r&d testing.

CSG Mike · 10-15-2015, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Simple answer: covered under factory warranty.
Long answer: factory r&d testing.

What if I told you they're port installed accessories?

jawn · 10-15-2015, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

What if I told you they're port installed accessories?

You're blowing my mind, Morpheus.

Mr.ac · 10-15-2015, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

What if I told you they're port installed accessories?

You're ruining the dream.

Mikeez · 10-15-2015, 03:37 AM

Lol, I think Mr.ac is correct. Manufacture and dealer ship won't be selling TRD if they cover it under warranty. If the shocks goes wrong, it will still be under warranty since its not considered wear and tear but a defect.

I believe the shocks will have a younger life cycle. Albeit, it will still run for a long time. I will see what happens. Thanks for all the inputs

mav1178 · 10-15-2015, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Simple answer: covered under factory warranty.
Long answer: factory r&d testing.

So how does that fit into what I wrote before, regarding springs designed to fit shocks but not the other way around?

I never said anything about the performance. I am merely commenting on fitment and what it is designed for.

Quote:

As mentioned already, just because it fits does not mean it is designed that way. Lowering springs may be designed to fit in OE strut housings, however the OE strut is not designed with lowering springs in mind.

It may be covered under factory warranty and it may work, but the OE strut was not designed with lowering springs in mind.

-alex

EAGLE5 · 10-15-2015, 12:49 PM

Smacking berms repeatedly at high speed on overheated suspension can probably blow most stock shocks and struts.

solidONE · 10-15-2015, 03:48 PM

^ if there's any remote indication that there was "abuse," good luck getting warranty by Toyota. Better not roll into the dealership with gummed up track tires and squeaky brake pads.

I wonder is Subaru is more lenient on stuff like this... I mean, every single advert for this car I've seen involves "performance driving" and "abuse."

Racecomp Engineering · 10-15-2015, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by solidONE

^ if there's any remote indication that there was "abuse," good luck getting warranty by Toyota. Better not roll into the dealership with gummed up track tires and squeaky brake pads.

I wonder is Subaru is more lenient on stuff like this... I mean, every single advert for this car I've seen involves "performance driving" and "abuse."

It very much depends on the dealership.

- Andrew

churchx · 10-15-2015, 04:30 PM

Adverts in no way relate to warranty policies. Just target in catchy/effective marketing way potential customers. Many manufacturers that have made cars for sporty driving purpose deny warranty if find out one was used in such purposed/designed for way. How about no warranty for Evos with dealers taking pics at autocross/track days events? Or how about funny story about VDC off/launch control on GT-R? And Subaru? How this sounds: "For instance, even though Subaru pops for a one-year SCCA membership for every interested WRX buyer, and in its marketing materials appears to encourage owners to enter their cars in autocross events, the company says autocrossing is racing and racing can void warranty coverage. The WRX/SCCA application form says the SCCA"looks forward to helping you fully experience the benefits of owning this car."But the form also includes a disclaimer that Subaru’s warranty excludes "damage or failure resulting from participation in competition or racing events."" ?

10-15-2015, 03:37 AM	#23
Mikeez Engineering Student Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: Scion FR-S 2015 Location: Montreal Posts: 628 Thanks: 18 Thanked 49 Times in 46 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lol, I think Mr.ac is correct. Manufacture and dealer ship won't be selling TRD if they cover it under warranty. If the shocks goes wrong, it will still be under warranty since its not considered wear and tear but a defect. I believe the shocks will have a younger life cycle. Albeit, it will still run for a long time. I will see what happens. Thanks for all the inputs __________________ There’s no time to stop for gas, we’re already late

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solidONE Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: FR-S Whiteout Location: California Posts: 2,863 Thanks: 1,808 Thanked 790 Times in 611 Posts Mentioned: 42 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ if there's any remote indication that there was "abuse," good luck getting warranty by Toyota. Better not roll into the dealership with gummed up track tires and squeaky brake pads. I wonder is Subaru is more lenient on stuff like this... I mean, every single advert for this car I've seen involves "performance driving" and "abuse." __________________ Intent > Content cowardice is the mother of cruelty.

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churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,333 Thanks: 696 Thanked 2,084 Times in 1,435 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Adverts in no way relate to warranty policies. Just target in catchy/effective marketing way potential customers. Many manufacturers that have made cars for sporty driving purpose deny warranty if find out one was used in such purposed/designed for way. How about no warranty for Evos with dealers taking pics at autocross/track days events? Or how about funny story about VDC off/launch control on GT-R? And Subaru? How this sounds: "For instance, even though Subaru pops for a one-year SCCA membership for every interested WRX buyer, and in its marketing materials appears to encourage owners to enter their cars in autocross events, the company says autocrossing is racing and racing can void warranty coverage. The WRX/SCCA application form says the SCCA"looks forward to helping you fully experience the benefits of owning this car."But the form also includes a disclaimer that Subaru’s warranty excludes "damage or failure resulting from participation in competition or racing events."" ?

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