How to PROPERLY select and size TIRES for PERFORMANCE

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

Come on guys so much negativity. It's not gonna understeer in that setup. 😂 it will just be more track oriented.

You're joking, right? It understeers with the stock tires at all 4 corners at the limit, going wider in the rear certainly isn't going to fix that.

[jawn]

Originally Posted by wparsons

You're joking, right? It understeers with the stock tires at all 4 corners at the limit, going wider in the rear certainly isn't going to fix that.

This. Just because you can get a car to rotate doing something ham-fisted, doesn't mean it's set up for oversteer. I've done powerslides in LS400s before. Doesn't mean they need to understeer more.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Locust

Well if you made it a drag car...

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

Come on guys so much negativity. It's not gonna understeer in that setup. �� it will just be more track oriented.

Can't tell if serious, or troll.

[chaoskaze]

Originally Posted by wparsons

You're joking, right? It understeers with the stock tires at all 4 corners at the limit, going wider in the rear certainly isn't going to fix that.

I'm. But I'm pretty sure this is related to thread topic. Stock wise 86 don't have too much power so it's good as is. 😛 But if you add some more power to it lets say 50-100 extra hp, Won't a slight staggered setup be better?

*Thread topic is how to select proper tire size for "performance"?*

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

I'm. But I'm pretty sure this is related to thread topic. Stock wise 86 don't have too much power so it's good as is. 😛 But if you add some more power to it lets say 50-100 extra hp, Won't a slight staggered setup be better?

*Thread topic is how to select proper tire size for "performance"?*

No, most of what we experience is under steady state cornering, adding power does not magically change the handling balance of a car, the front end will still wash out at 'X' mph in 'Z' turn whether you've got 50 horsepower or 500 horsepower. While adding grip to the rear will allow for more power sooner it will only exacerbate the already existing understeer balance, again assuming the rest of the car is left as-is.

A staggered setup would be a bandaid that does not address the underlying problem, as alluded to above by @jawn oversteer on a stock 86 is caused by ham-fistedness, deliberate driver inputs, or road conditions, usually a combination of all three.

[Icanfaptothis86]

SOme one check my logic here. Formula 1 cars are the fastest race cars in the world. Formula 1 cars have staggered wheel set up. Therefore staggered wheels set up bc racecar.

[juliog]

I really think our car should have some with a staggered setup like 215 front 235 rear. Instead of drift all you want 215 square.

Originally Posted by Icanfaptothis86

SOme one check my logic here. Formula 1 cars are the fastest race cars in the world. Formula 1 cars have staggered wheel set up. Therefore staggered wheels set up bc racecar.

But.. but...
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqUkt83gpnI"]Max Verstappen drifts F1 car at Interlagos Free practice - YouTube[/ame]

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Icanfaptothis86

SOme one check my logic here. Formula 1 cars are the fastest race cars in the world. Formula 1 cars have staggered wheel set up. Therefore staggered wheels set up bc racecar.

When you have their power/weight ratio, you can too

[Icanfaptothis86]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

When you have their power/weight ratio, you can too

I've read taht the tire/wheel size is all set by the regulations.

If the F1 designers had their way they would prefer larger fronts to optimize balance and run larger front brakes.

[Icanfaptothis86]

Originally Posted by juliog

But.. but...

There goes the tire budget

[Icanfaptothis86]

http://www.wired.com/2014/07/f1-cars...fit-consumers/

save the rubber taste the rubber

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

When you have their power/weight ratio, you can too

Don't be too simplistic, it's also weight distribution as well.

[Deep Six]

Originally Posted by Icanfaptothis86

SOme one check my logic here. Formula 1 cars are the fastest race cars in the world. Formula 1 cars have staggered wheel set up. Therefore staggered wheels set up bc racecar.

Last time I checked there is a motor sitting back there with those wider tires. Rear and mid engine setup is a whole different ball game.

[Icanfaptothis86]

Originally Posted by Deep Six

Last time I checked there is a motor sitting back there with those wider tires. Rear and mid engine setup is a whole different ball game.

I know i was being cheeky