Nameless Performance Equal Length Stepped Header

[utekineir]

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

a warranty CANNOT be void. only a claim denied. please do not post false information.

Would you rather nobody said anything to the guy thinking he can mod exhaust and reflash with no warranty consequences?


sorry for posting quickly from a phone and phrasing the statement wrong.

guy asking questions, moss magnusson act, read what it means for you


HAPPY???

[Scooby South]

Originally Posted by StormTrooper

@Scooby South do you know if they'll offer the tune for the header on a different tuning platform.

I really don't want to support the ecutek business model and still not have access to the tune.

Right now.. I don' t think so.. I could be wrong. As I am just testing the header and the ECUTEK tune that they offer. I get wind of things down the pipe.. but usually only a few weeks, if that, ahead of time. Right now I know they gearing up for production of the 3gen *STX header and 4gen header * Replace the cooling fan header.. Alot of development has taken place to ensure that the product Nameless Will offer is the best that it can be. I initially sent Jason the Ruleset, since their interest was going to be a motorsports related Exhaust so they could develop a Legal Exhaust for the class of racing that I do. Alot discussion laid the ground work for the upcoming product production. Their Replace the cooling fan header is going to be AWESOME, it will Pretty much blow most of the competitors away.. some of the preliminary numbers I am seeing will be like the car is on E85 only with 93... But it wasn't legal for STX Class because you had to change out the fans. so Nameless went to work to make a class legal header that would be at least 85-90% of what the cooling fan header is. They succeeded. I wish I could get the extra 10% out of the advantage that the cooling fan header has.. but then I wouldn't be within the rules. Nameless Does ALot of R&D to ensure the products they offer to the public will be the best that they can offer. I, for one, and extremely proud to be associated with such a professional company, that takes the time to ensure that things are done right.

Bill

[tennisfreak]

Been researching the crap out of headers the last few weeks and have yet to find anything currently on the market that just says "buy me".

I want a catted header that will give enough hp gains to justify the cost.

There are only a couple of catted headers out there now and neither seem to hit the sweet spot. They either dont make enough power, have fitment issues, have seal/leak issues, or there is concern of the cat going out in less than 2 years.

Nameless is going to be my best hope I think. Here is hoping for the best. I am in no huge rush but would love to have one on my car by years end.

[Dephective]

I too want a STX legal header with those kinds of gains. Right now its between the JDL EL and this. The quality of JDL is gorgeous, but I'm still holding off a few more weeks to place my order for a new header in the hopes that there will be an estimated release date at least. I haven't been able to find any JDL EL + header back + tune dyno charts to see the actual potential of JDL's, only their untuned charts.

Anyone know where I can find these elusive charts? 3rd party preferably.

[Ethan]

Originally Posted by Scooby South

Right now.. I don' t think so.. I could be wrong. As I am just testing the header and the ECUTEK tune that they offer. I get wind of things down the pipe.. but usually only a few weeks, if that, ahead of time. Right now I know they gearing up for production of the 3gen *STX header and 4gen header * Replace the cooling fan header.. Alot of development has taken place to ensure that the product Nameless Will offer is the best that it can be. I initially sent Jason the Ruleset, since their interest was going to be a motorsports related Exhaust so they could develop a Legal Exhaust for the class of racing that I do. Alot discussion laid the ground work for the upcoming product production. Their Replace the cooling fan header is going to be AWESOME, it will Pretty much blow most of the competitors away.. some of the preliminary numbers I am seeing will be like the car is on E85 only with 93... But it wasn't legal for STX Class because you had to change out the fans. so Nameless went to work to make a class legal header that would be at least 85-90% of what the cooling fan header is. They succeeded. I wish I could get the extra 10% out of the advantage that the cooling fan header has.. but then I wouldn't be within the rules. Nameless Does ALot of R&D to ensure the products they offer to the public will be the best that they can offer. I, for one, and extremely proud to be associated with such a professional company, that takes the time to ensure that things are done right.

Bill

Scooby, do you know whether the "replace the stock fan" version of the header will fit with the Robispec combination radiator/oil cooler if I replace the stock fan with a thin fan? I don't have the Robispec part yet, but I am just thinking ahead. Thx.

[regal]

Originally Posted by Scooby South

Their Replace the cooling fan header is going to be AWESOME, it will Pretty much blow most of the competitors away.. some of the preliminary numbers I am seeing will be like the car is on E85 only with 93...

Bill

Hell it would be nearly as good as the Innovate if this happens. Let's be honest I hope they realize there is a bigger market for this header, autocross for this platform is a very small market.

[Scooby South]

Originally Posted by regal

Hell it would be nearly as good as the Innovate if this happens. Let's be honest I hope they realize there is a bigger market for this header, autocross for this platform is a very small market.

yes...They absolutely realize this.. But again, From What I know, They want to the absolute best product to bring to market. With that said, I fully expect them to start 'Revealing' the 'Change the fans header'..here in the near future. I can tell you, Its a stepped 'longtube' header that has a convertible Pipe that will be able to go from 2.5 in to 3.0 just with the change at the Band clamp. that header will also be able to support a Turbo application, if desired with the same change of the pipe at the band clamp.. I Fully understand your concern," Autocross is a small market", However, it does make power, and could be a great alternative to those that don't want to Change the fans out. As for a Robi-spec interface ..I do believe Nameless has taken that into consideration.

Bill

[blubaru]

Originally Posted by Scooby South

I can tell you, Its a stepped 'longtube' header that has a convertible Pipe that will be able to go from 2.5 in to 3.0 just with the change at the Band clamp. that header will also be able to support a Turbo application, if desired with the same change of the pipe at the band clamp

This right here excites me!

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by regal

Hell it would be nearly as good as the Innovate if this happens.

That might be (read: absolutely is) an exaggeration. People have been seeing increases from 139 -> 227whp, or from 151->255whp by adding a properly tuned Innovate kit. If this header makes even HALF of those gains, I'd still be blown away by the results. I'll be getting the header either way, especially knowing that it was developed with the innovate kit in mind.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

That might be (read: absolutely is) an exaggeration. People have been seeing increases from 139 -> 227whp, or from 151->255whp by adding a properly tuned Innovate kit. If this header makes even HALF of those gains, I'd still be blown away by the results. I'll be getting the header either way, especially knowing that it was developed with the innovate kit in mind.

Some people also get alot less as well. This is the Edmunds car fully stock and then bolting on the innovate the next day. This is on a dyno jet, no supporting mods, no water meth injection.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

That might be (read: absolutely is) an exaggeration. People have been seeing increases from 139 -> 227whp, or from 151->255whp by adding a properly tuned Innovate kit. If this header makes even HALF of those gains, I'd still be blown away by the results. I'll be getting the header either way, especially knowing that it was developed with the innovate kit in mind.

I certainly dont expect this header to make even half those gains. I think the torque bump will be nice but hp will not be more than 20 hp.

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by fenton

Some people also get alot less as well. This is the Edmunds car fully stock and then bolting on the innovate the next day. This is on a dyno jet, no supporting mods, no water meth injection.

Note that I said properly tuned. Edmunds is running on the Innovate's 91 octane basemap.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Note that I said properly tuned. Edmunds is running on the Innovate's 91 octane basemap.

Ic, i wasnt aware the basemap was neutered for 91 octane

So if you get the kit you really do have to get it re tuned hey?

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by fenton

Ic, i wasnt aware the basemap was neutered for 91 octane

So if you get the kit you really do have to get it re tuned hey?

Not so much retuned as it is tuned. Edmunds is using innovate's base map which will be included with their CARB certified kit (even more neutered for CARB approval.)

The only kits available for sale now are tuner kits. AKA, bring your own tune. There are a number of tuners out there making REALLY good power on these things, like @DeliciousTuning, @moto-mike and JR Tuned.