Would you prefer that the FRS had a "real" engine?

[Summerwolf]

I like the engine itself.... I just want more power, lol.

[Tcoat]

Not odd that people counter opinions with opinions. Where things fall apart is when opinions are presented as fact and shoved down others throat. Nohome could maybe have worded his original post better but I for one understood he was presenting an opinion and not stating as hard fact.
Also not odd that many of the guys responding that the engine is no good have usernames or past vehicles that reflect where their bias originates. The number of "well my xxx car with it's yyy engine was perfect" almost always include some legendary set up that frequently are not any better than 100 others out there but are high profile. Many of those cars could in reality have been pieces of crap but they were first or favourites so now the owners remember them as great. If I started ranting about my big block 70s v8s like some on here do about their old Supras or Civics I would be laughed off the forum.
Beyond this forum my knowledge of the tuner scene extends as far as the F and F movies and I see a distinct correlation between the cars from that series and what the younger crowd on here seem to think are the great cars. There were and are better cars then those and there always will be.
As I have already stated I don't love or hate this engine. It suits the car and whatever issues it may have are no better or worse that any other engine, just different.
It is the nature of car guys to second guess the engineers that design any car and sometimes that is warranted due to how the car is used but we don't all use them the same so they have to be designed to the closest common denominator.
I must say I do enjoy all the "I have this issue so everybody does" and "all these engines are going to blow up because I know a guy who said his did" comments though since they can be very entertaining in their intensity.
So I end this rant with this pearl of wisdom:
If you don't like it than fix it, change it or sell it but don't try to tell the rest of us why we shouldn't like it or what problems we should be having just because you are. (This was not directed at you @NOHOME but at the guys in general)

[venturaII]

The Koolaide is strong in this thread...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by venturaII

The Koolaide is strong in this thread...

How about we head over to the Civic forum and say "wow these cars would be great if it weren't for that damned VTEC" or the Mustang one and say "these would be so much better if they just made them in only v6 autos.

Grab a cup and pull up a seat.

[venturaII]

I agree. I'm just amused at how so many people think a rather generic motor is such a triumph of design and technology. It moves the car adequately; no more, no less.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by venturaII

I agree. I'm just amused at how so many people think a rather generic motor is such a triumph of design and technology. It moves the car adequately; no more, no less.

Yep! And the same applies to every other engine that is being thrown up as "better". Every single one of them has their good and bad points. No matter what they put in it somebody would say it is no good and they should have used their personal favourite.

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by venturaII

I agree. I'm just amused at how so many people think a rather generic motor is such a triumph of design and technology. It moves the car adequately; no more, no less.

I wonder who's idea this was

THIS GUY...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by stevesnj

I wonder who's idea this was

THIS GUY...

You mean the guy who designed the car to be a "blank canvis" for people to easily mod to whatever level suited their desires? That guy?

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You mean the guy who designed the car to be a "blank canvis" for people to easily mod to whatever level suited their desires? That guy?

[venturaII]

Originally Posted by stevesnj

I wonder who's idea this was

THIS GUY...

The car could've been designed by Stephen Hawking; it still wouldn't change any of the realities of what it is, and what it's powered by: a warmed over version of what powers the Subaru Crosstrek and a few other models. As I said before, it's adequate at performing it's job. Luckily the rest of the platform picks up the slack.

[Sideways]

I love the boxer engine power plant that in these car!! If someone don't like it, go buy a something else!! Its enough for what brz/frs was built for.

[akash_]

i don't understand what people are bitching about. the way this car comes out of the factory is great. for what i bought this car for I'm more than happy with the engine, suspension , interior,...etc. honestly i understand that this car lacks power but its got enough to stay nose to nose with a 14 wrx sti on the free way.

[Draco-REX]

"Real engine" huh...

This is just yet another re-hash of the "The 86 needs more power" argument. Flat 4 vs inline 4 is meaningless.

[venturaII]

Originally Posted by akash_

i understand that this car lacks power but its got enough to stay nose to nose with a 14 wrx sti on the free way.

Hang on...you're saying that the '86 is going to hang right with a WRX STi, a car with over 100 horsepower more than us and DOUBLE the torque, in a roll on at legal highway speeds? Are you sure the other guy knew he was in a race? lol


Edit: If that's the case, I should be able to walk away from a standard WRX, which a friend of mine has. This will be a pretty easy test...