Is tuning safe?

[steve99]

Originally Posted by Cartman

I don't know of a single respected tuner that recommends OFT, so your argument is moot.

An oft is a device to flash a rom just like an ecutek cable or a tatrix adapter.

The reason most tuners dont use oft or tactrix\ecuflash is they dont provide the ability to lock the tune and your ecu.

Quite a few tuners use tactrix\brzedit as it does provide locking of ecu\tune and some have coded flex fuel option.

[D_Thissen]

Not this shit again.. OFT vs Ecutek, N/A vs F/I, Rota vs Volks..

[diodelphi]

i worked with some ecutek tuners and i do not like share my experience here.

finally i worked with moto-mike and the result was awesome.
more than 1.51 seconds 0-100km records from stock with moto-mike stage 2 tune.
3 of my friends use mike maps for their NA tune and the result is great.
in my view:
mike is great
mike is awesome
mike is professional tuner

I should thanks him and i 100% recommend him.

[stugray]

Originally Posted by Cartman

FYI, bob is 100% against OFT, and for good reasons... you'll have an ECUTEK tune which will be custom tailored to your car, and should achive the best possible gains for your mods.

Hmmm.. someone who charges for a service that someone else offers for free? I wonder why they are against it?
I know of electricians that tell me that it is illegal for me to work on my own residfential AC power system. (I wonder why they lie????)

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

All Ecutek dealers are against the OFT for good (to them) reason. Furthermore, we custom tailor mapping for our OFT customers every day using the OFT so custom tuning isn't exclusive to Ecutek.

Same answer as above

Originally Posted by Cartman

I don't know of a single respected tuner that recommends OFT, so your argument is moot.

That is because they are loosing money to OFT products.

I used the off the shelf OFT tune for a Stock BRZ and it works beautifully.
Just pick components that OFT has a tune for, install them, flahs the corresponding OFT tune, then post some logs for people to look at.
That way you get free online support.

[D_Thissen]

Originally Posted by diodelphi

i worked with some ecutek tuners and i do not like share my experience here.

finally i worked with moto-mike and the result was awesome.
more than 1.51 seconds 0-100km records from stock with moto-mike stage 2 tune.
3 of my friends use mike maps for their NA tune and the result is great.
in my view:
mike is great
mike is awesome
mike is professional tuner

I should thanks him and i 100% recommend him.

I am not going to knock any of the tuners here because from what I have read, most do a fantastic job. However, I find this to be a common misconception. Faster car=Better tune. Is the tune safe? What are your AFR's? Are you getting knock? There have been a few companies that have blown boosted motors and left customers high and dry.

[phrosty]

Originally Posted by D_Thissen

What are your ARF's?

Got a dog tuner?

[Cartman]

Originally Posted by stugray

Hmmm.. someone who charges for a service that someone else offers for free? I wonder why they are against it?
I know of electricians that tell me that it is illegal for me to work on my own residfential AC power system. (I wonder why they lie????)



Same answer as above



That is because they are loosing money to OFT products.

I used the off the shelf OFT tune for a Stock BRZ and it works beautifully.
Just pick components that OFT has a tune for, install them, flahs the corresponding OFT tune, then post some logs for people to look at.
That way you get free online support.

You can do that with an ECUTEK cable and dongle... I flashed an OFT tune on my car and it was the biggest pile of shit ever.

As of now, my own street tune is working flawlessly and the only thing it has from OFT is the O2 sensor scale.

I can easily post my ECUTEK logs online and get the same free support.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Cartman

You can do that with an ECUTEK cable and dongle... I flashed an OFT tune on my car and it was the biggest pile of shit ever.

As of now, my own street tune is working flawlessly and the only thing it has from OFT is the O2 sensor scale.

I can easily post my ECUTEK logs online and get the same free support.

Empirically, what made it the "biggest pile of shit ever."

[D_Thissen]

Originally Posted by phrosty

Got a dog tuner?

Lmao! Oh man, apparently I need more coffee.. Epic fail

[Cartman]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Empirically, what made it the "biggest pile of shit ever."

Lets just say that it lost power after it learned the parameters, and the fact that it pushes the car to over 30 degrees of timing which is rediculous, and a recepie for knocking. MAF scale was whack causing horrible FTLT.

The stock tune ran way better than OFT.

[stugray]

Originally Posted by Cartman

You can do that with an ECUTEK cable and dongle... I flashed an OFT tune on my car and it was the biggest pile of shit ever.

I see. So where did you get an ECUTEK tune for free?
And I guess "no tourque dip, noticeable increase in HP, and alleviating the stock transient timing bug" is "biggest pile of shit ever" - Noted.

I will redfine what "pile of shit" means in my dictionary.

[D_Thissen]

Originally Posted by Cartman

Lets just say that it lost power after it learned the parameters, and the fact that it pushes the car to over 30 degrees of timing which is rediculous, and a recepie for knocking. MAF scale was whack causing horrible FTLT.

The stock tune ran way better than OFT.

What mods were done to your car?? Did you data log the stock tune? When I first picked up my OFT, my IAM was 0.7 and I was getting a lot of tip in knock (factory tune). Running the 93 tune from Shiv, the only time I get knock is if I am in stop and go traffic, and then smash the gas in a higher gear. IAM is 1.
Here is a log I took about an hour ago. Started in 3rd gear at 2700RPM shifted into 4th at 7200RPM.
**Ambient temp is about 72F, RH is 46% and 29.98"Hg**
http://www.datazap.me/u/dthissen/log...data=1-6-11-14

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Cartman

Lets just say that it lost power after it learned the parameters, and the fact that it pushes the car to over 30 degrees of timing which is rediculous, and a recepie for knocking. MAF scale was whack causing horrible FTLT.

The stock tune ran way better than OFT.

Ahhh, I see we don't understand Empirical or Quantifiable.


Thanks for playing.

[Cartman]

Originally Posted by stugray

I see. So where did you get an ECUTEK tune for free?
And I guess "no tourque dip, noticeable increase in HP, and alleviating the stock transient timing bug" is "biggest pile of shit ever" - Noted.

I will redfine what "pile of shit" means in my dictionary.

You clearly don't know how ECUTEK works, all you need is a licence and you can flash any rom file. I downloaded the OFT tunes from OFT website, flashed it according to my mods and knocking and loss of power was all I got.

Originally Posted by D_Thissen

What mods were done to your car?? Did you data log the stock tune? When I first picked up my OFT, my IAM was 0.7 and I was getting a lot of tip in knock (factory tune). Running the 93 tune from Shiv, the only time I get knock is if I am in stop and go traffic, and then smash the gas in a higher gear. IAM is 1.
Here is a log I took about an hour ago. Started in 3rd gear at 2700RPM shifted into 4th at 7200RPM.
**Ambient temp is about 72F, RH is 46% and 29.98"Hg**
http://www.datazap.me/u/dthissen/log...data=1-6-11-14

I have full exhaust done to the car, and manifold spacers, I have over 200 logs on my laptop, to get my car running as best as it can with a street tune.

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

Strangely there is nothing in your entire post history that even mentions that you used an OFT. Nor have we ever received a call or email from any actual customer describing the problems you claim. I have read posts from you insulting me which is cool. But in general, you sound more like someone with an axe to grind than someone who actually had a bad experience with a product. Thank you for contributing nonetheless.

I just used your OFT files and flashed them with my ECUTEK cable and dongle... not that hard.

When I first tried it was when a friend of mine loaded it with BRZedit and a tactrix.