ACE Header Independent Testing Results and Review - 199.6WHP on CA 91 Octane

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by DHitHim

LOL a header that does nearly half the power of a CARB tune JRSC. Imagine when there's both combined!






LOL






He went back to N/A?

He did. He keeps trying different FI kits and always ends up going back to NA and running same or faster lap times. Go figure.

[brzaapi]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

He did. He keeps trying different FI kits and always ends up going back to NA and running same or faster lap times. Go figure.

Thats awesome to hear. The more and more i track my car, the less HP obsessed i become. I would love to add the JRSC to my car, but right now the car runs so good and isnt plagued by any heat issues. I just keep finding excuses to stay NA.

I know thats not the popular opinion around here, but I just keep finding little a bit more speed here and there without adding HP.

[jasonojordan]

This header has made my mind up if I ever go FI it will be Jackson SC kit with this header. Buys me one more year of time to decide without breaking the bank on a FI kit. I try to drive my car for a year. Do mods in the spring. Drive it for another year with the mods I've done so I can enjoy each group of mods I do to the car. (I only drive it in the summer months so 4-6mo a year)

[Reamer]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Well, considering he's owns the header, and had the Innovate SC, Ptuning turbo, and JRSC...

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

this.

After all that NA -> FI -> NA -> FI -> NA -> FI -> NA .... a pure NA header build is better for tracking. LOL.

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

He did. He keeps trying different FI kits and always ends up going back to NA and running same or faster lap times. Go figure.

I stand corrected. I want to stay N/A for tracking, but that was more based on my lack of skill and there's plenty room for improvement on my part before using FI as a crutch for faster lap times.

Having said that, I'm wanting to get a second 86 for NA tracking and run a SC on my current one just for fun. I'm in the Houston area and we have very few fun roads so if you're just around friends it is mostly about straight line speed. I know that isn't what this car is made for, but I don't want a different car (besides a 997 911 turbo, but I don't have 80k at the moment either) so I've accepted what I need to do to make this one work.

I also had no intentions on discrediting the ACE header as I wouldn't trade it for any other option on the market right now.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Reamer

I stand corrected. I want to stay N/A for tracking, but that was more based on my lack of skill and there's plenty room for improvement on my part before using FI as a crutch for faster lap times.

Having said that, I'm wanting to get a second 86 for NA tracking and run a SC on my current one just for fun. I'm in the Houston area and we have very few fun roads so if you're just around friends it is mostly about straight line speed. I know that isn't what this car is made for, but I don't want a different car (besides a 997 911 turbo, but I don't have 80k at the moment either) so I've accepted what I need to do to make this one work.

I also had no intentions on discrediting the ACE header as I wouldn't trade it for any other option on the market right now.

FI time for the daily!

[Reamer]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

FI time for the daily!

Built motor time for the daily! My paranoia of damaging internals is too high to go FI on the stock engine, despite how many of you prove me wrong on a daily basis. My other reasoning is I don't want to pay for the labor of installing FI twice, once for stock motor, second time for after upgraded internals or entirely new engine.

[nova.86]

anyone done Ace Headers, Tomei 60R, Tomei Front Pipe? Or just 60R and Ace, Stock FP? I'm thinking about running Ace Headers to eliminate Torque dip and get E85

[kch]

Originally Posted by nova.86

anyone done Ace Headers, Tomei 60R, Tomei Front Pipe? Or just 60R and Ace, Stock FP? I'm thinking about running Ace Headers to eliminate Torque dip and get E85

Will be loud as shit, and quite raspy too. The 60R is already one of the loudest catbacks for this platform. Add that to a catless header and catless FP and you have a recipe for a police magnet.

I'd suggest having at least a couple resonators in the mix somewhere, if not a catted FP too. Depends on how much of a racecar you want.

[CounterSpace Garage]

Originally Posted by nova.86

anyone done Ace Headers, Tomei 60R, Tomei Front Pipe? Or just 60R and Ace, Stock FP? I'm thinking about running Ace Headers to eliminate Torque dip and get E85

We have a client with the 60S. He just swapped all his stuff from the 2013 to the new 2016 so he hasn't quite fired up the new one yet. It's going to sound glorious. Dual exhaust is really the way to go to cut the noise level down a little bit, but any sort of catless setup is always going to be on the louder side.

[nova.86]

Originally Posted by kch

Will be loud as shit, and quite raspy too. The 60R is already one of the loudest catbacks for this platform. Add that to a catless header and catless FP and you have a recipe for a police magnet.

I'd suggest having at least a couple resonators in the mix somewhere, if not a catted FP too. Depends on how much of a racecar you want.

True, I'd probably switch the front pipe to a resonated FP to tone it down.

Originally Posted by CounterSpace Garage

We have a client with the 60S. He just swapped all his stuff from the 2013 to the new 2016 so he hasn't quite fired up the new one yet. It's going to sound glorious. Dual exhaust is really the way to go to cut the noise level down a little bit, but any sort of catless setup is always going to be on the louder side.

So with a quad tip do you think I can get away with uncatted Headers , front pipe, and resonators in the quad tip catback? haha

[Reamer]

Originally Posted by nova.86

True, I'd probably switch the front pipe to a resonated FP to tone it down.

Has anyone tried the HKS dual resonated? Anyone know if it fits an auto? I asked FT86SF but they couldn't confirm at the time. I bet it would sound great with this header and a catback if you're looking for loud as f*** and trying to keep rasp down.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by CounterSpace Garage

We have a client with the 60S. He just swapped all his stuff from the 2013 to the new 2016 so he hasn't quite fired up the new one yet. It's going to sound glorious. Dual exhaust is really the way to go to cut the noise level down a little bit, but any sort of catless setup is always going to be on the louder side.

I want to believe so bad that this won't be ear splittingly loud for a DD.

I really want the ACE + JDL ultra quiet front pipe/overpipe combo + the 60S.

[Reamer]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

I want to believe so bad that this won't be ear splittingly loud for a DD.

I really want the ACE + JDL ultra quiet front pipe/overpipe combo + the 60S.

Get someone to send me a 60S and I'll let you know

[nova.86]

Originally Posted by Reamer

Has anyone tried the HKS dual resonated? Anyone know if it fits an auto? I asked FT86SF but they couldn't confirm at the time. I bet it would sound great with this header and a catback if you're looking for loud as f*** and trying to keep rasp down.

I test drove a friend's E85 NA car with Tomei EL Headers I think, HKS dual resonated and HKS exhaust I believe. It was great, loud when you step on it, comfortable at 3k rpms on the freeway. No rasp. When I do get the headers, I'll see how it is for 3 days with the Tomei front pipe, most likely though I'm going to swap it out for the HKS dual resonated.