Ohlins R&T on the street?

[Raven240]

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This is my laguna seca with a stock e92 M3. My best time was 1:53 ever.

My friend (200+ track days) got a 1:53 with a stock FRS. Just need more seat time =)

[DeaconRoc]

Originally Posted by mav1178

In this context, "performance" means great handling and a firm (but better) ride than stock, but a lot of people don't even know what a good suspension feels like.

-alex

I've been doing lots of suspension research recently and I thought this was a really interesting point - unless you can try lots of different suspension to get a feel for how they are different - how do you know what good suspension feels like? Are there particular characteristics that good suspension shows, etc?

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Raven240

My friend (200+ track days) got a 1:53 with a stock FRS. Just need more seat time =)

Yeah, I wasn't very aggressive and if you watch closely, I'm lifting off throttle through 4 and slightly "misshifting" into 6.

Originally Posted by DeaconRoc

I've been doing lots of suspension research recently and I thought this was a really interesting point - unless you can try lots of different suspension to get a feel for how they are different - how do you know what good suspension feels like? Are there particular characteristics that good suspension shows, etc?

The main thing is the whole concept of "firmness" vs "harshness".

Both feel shitty, both give you the "car on rails" feeling. I think the best way to describe it is this:

Drive freeway speed over a freeway bridge joint, where it launches you enough to feel as if you've come off your seat. Stock or "bad" suspension will have a momentary secondary "float", or really bad suspension will move a second or two longer.

Good suspension will bottom out and minimize the upward movement.

Both will still feel like shit over bad roads to the average driver.

-alex