Official 2016 Camaro Thread With Updates

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After the introductions of the base sixth-gen Camaros and recently, the high-po ZL1s, what’s missing from Chevy’s renewed pony car range is the more extreme Z/28 replacement, and we think this is it.

To be precise, we believe that this bad-ass Camaro tester with the huge rear wing that we spied lapping the Nürburgring today is the Trans Am Camaro Z/28 that General Motors product chief Mark Reuss hinted at last year.

Chevy’s original Trans Am car from the late 1960s was a special version of the Z/28 with a unique 302 cubic inch (approx. 5.0-liters) small-block V8 developed specifically to homologate the new Camaro for SCCA’s popular Trans-Am road-racing series. Only 602 examples were built in 1967.

Speaking to Autonews last year, Reuss said that Chevy is studying a rebirth of the car. "We're looking at the original formulas of the Trans Am homologation of the Z/28," he said."Why was the 302 engine so special? So, the formula may change a little, but it still needs to be a wicked fast track car more capable maybe than the comfort- and driver-oriented models."

This narrative fits with what we’re seeing here in these spy shots, as the camouflaged prototype looks like a dialed up 2017 Camaro ZL1 with a more extreme body kit that includes front bumper corner canards and a deeper lip spoiler, a much bigger rear wing and different wheels hiding larger brake discs.

Undoubtedly, such a hardcore model would come with weight saving measures over the already lighter 2016 Camaro – the previous 5th gen Camaro Z/28 was 100 pounds (45 kilograms) lighter than the naturally aspirated Camaro SS and 300 pounds (136 kilograms) lighter than the Camaro ZL1.

What will power the next Z/28 is a big unknown at this point other than it will be a V8 engine. The previous Z/28 used a naturally-aspirated 7.0-liter LS7 V8 rated for 505hp 481 lb-ft of torque (652 Nm) which helped it record a faster Nürburgring lap than the Lexus LFA and Lamborghini Murcielago at 7:37.47. It’s very likely that Chevy will keep the Z/28 naturally-aspirated to further differentiate it from the new ZL1 that borrows the Corvette Z06’s 640hp (477 kW) and 640 lb-ft of torque (868 Nm) supercharged 6.2-liter V8 LT4.

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/05/is-...ester-new.html

[vh_supra26]

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If the ZL1 is meant to give those snobby Europeans a run for their money, its bigger brother will scare the hell out of them.

The upcoming Z28 that’s being rigorously tested at the Nürburgring is a testosterone-infused version of the current top Camaro.

Not that the latter (that can also be spotted in the video) is for the faint-hearted, what with its Vette Z06-sourced, 640 HP V8, gapping grille, bulging hood, flared arches and rear wing, but this is bound to be even more special.

GM engineers could have saved themselves some work by ditching the camo, for it simply fails to hide the wide canards, lower splitter and reshaped side air intakes on the front bumper – and then, of course, there’s that much larger wing at the back and wider black wheels and rubber that can hardly be contained by the rear wings and lower suspension.

The Z/28 won't pack more firepower than the ZL1, but it will compensate for that with a lighter body and track-focused handling. Refreshingly enough, forced induction is almost definitely off the menu like in its predecessor and the way this test car sounds reinforces this view. The cylinder count will remain the same, but instead of tweaking the LT4, Chevrolet could shoehorn a large displacement V8 in the engine bay.

Beating the previous Z/28's 4.0-second 0-60 mph (0-96 km/h) sprint won’t be an issue. Nor should handling, thanks to an even sharper Magnetic Ride suspension and the Performance Traction Management, electronic limited-slip differential, Custom Launch Control and Driver Mode Selector from the lesser Camaro. A stringent diet should help, too, and would prove more than useful on the track.

Speaking of which, the previous Z/28 beat some formidable, and seriously more expensive, opponents like the Lexus LFA and Lamborghini Murcielago around the Nordschleife. It will be interesting to see what kind of precious metal the brand-new one might humble this time.

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/05/201...g-howl-to.html

New Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 To Use Naturally Aspirated 7.0-Liter V8

The next track-focused iteration of the Camaro is reportedly going to stick with naturally aspirated V8 power.

We’ve already seen and heard a very aggressive-looking prototype being driven around the Nurburgring, which eventually crashed onto the barriers. You don’t need a trained set of ears to understand that there is a naturally aspirated V8 breathing under there.

Motortrend has connected the dots for everyone to answer which powertrain is eventually going to power the new Z/28 and their answer is an updated version of the 7.0-litre V8 that powered the previous generation too.

It all makes sense: GM wants the car to remain naturally aspirated and to be special enough to take on the Ford Mustang GT350R. Power will be slightly increased from the 505hp it made for the last Z/28 to the region of 540 to 565hp, according to MT. This shall position the new car comfortably under the ZL1 and offer more horses than the GT350R.

Sources from Chevrolet have also said in the past that the 7.0-litre V8 will appear in one of their future cars, and if you think about it, the only model that makes sense using this engine is the next Z/28. The updated version of the LS7 engine could even switch its code name to LT7 to point out the technical differences in their new-gen track weapon.

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/05/new...28-to-use.html

[FX86]

i bet the visibility became even worse in the new camaro

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by FX86

i bet the visibility became even worse in the new camaro

It's not worse, but it's only marginally better, and that only to the front. In other words: it blows.

Test drove this for quite a while, the SS model - great engine sound, loved the rev-matching on the manual (wish they put that into the BRZ refresh!). But the car is HUUUGE, way too big and heavy to feel agile. No thanks.

[bfrank1972]

Just a quick follow up to this, curiosity go the better of me and I went to a local dealer to check out a black 2SS. Car looks better in pictures to me than real life - sits way up high (of course my FR-S is lowered ). Sat inside, wow for such a big car it feels awfully cramped. The roof line is low (I'm 6'2") and overall the cabin feels far less roomy than my tiny FR-S! Same goes for the rear seats, maybe a smidge more leg room, but we're talking about 0" leg room vs 1" leg room. Neither is useable for my kids to put their legs down (they sit criss-cross just fine in the back) - so no advantage their. The trunk is weird, it's a big hole - pain if you have anything heavy or bulky to put in the back. I didn't drive it though - so I'm probably missing out on the "good stuff" but I'm really suprised - I was expecting more room.

The twins have their issues for sure, but it just goes to show how well thought out our cars are regarding space usage, visibility, etc. We have cars that are the size of a Cayman, but with rear seats that are actually useable by my kids and a relatively useable trunk! And it weighs about 1000lbs less than the Camaro.

I'm sure the Camaro's power is a hoot though

[WolfpackS2k]

A lot of people talking crap about the Camaro in here, seem to be completely unaware that it now handles as well as a BMW M3.

[darthpnoy1984]

The windows on the new Camaro feel so small compare to our twins. Though I don't mind owning an SS model to be honest.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

A lot of people talking crap about the Camaro in here, seem to be completely unaware that it now handles as well as a BMW M3.

Talking handling in terms of >3,500 lb luxury cars doesn't impress most people around here.

The last gen was also comparable to the M3 in terms of performance, I drove a '14 SS and if you gave me any Camaro free and clear it'd be listed for sale by sundown. I'd be surprised if the new one changed my mind. If I'm carrying around that much weight it might as well come with 4 doors.



I wouldn't say it's a bad car, just different strokes and all that. Everyone here who bought an 86 could have easily walked across the street and driven home in a Camaro, we simply aren't the target audience.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

What was up with that rear brake bias!?

Our cars do the exact same thing when the vsc freaks out at the track, it's happened to me and a few other and it's scary as fuck the first time. Always pedal dance!

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech

It's not worse, but it's only marginally better, and that only to the front. In other words: it blows.

Test drove this for quite a while, the SS model - great engine sound, loved the rev-matching on the manual (wish they put that into the BRZ refresh!). But the car is HUUUGE, way too big and heavy to feel agile. No thanks.

I'm glad they didn't put some stupid computer to rev-match a manual transmission. I'll cut you some slack if you can't heel and toe but if you can't even do a simple rev-match or double-clutch downshift then please just buy the automatic.

I've always wondered how people manage to see out of these big muscle cars, it's like being surrounded by the Great Wall of China inside. I thought the 190E was bad with that big ass hood but at least that car sat fairly low.

[Jen]

Having owned a Camaro for two years, if you like your BRZ/FRS, you won't like the Camaro.

Plus- it looks good and it has a lot of storage and you can take passengers, people love the car and it gets tons of attention (mine is white with orange racing stripes)
Negatives- can't see out of it, you feel like you are in a tank and your passenger is in a bunker, hard to back out, doesn't handle well, can't feel the power, it feels like it can't get out of its own way, even with 325 hp

I'm looking to sell my 2014 Camaro. I only put 3k miles on it. I've put 12k on my WRX in under a year, so if I like a car, I will drive it.

Funny thing, I own a manual. The auto actually feels like it has some power. Test drive both. You will be surprised. The V8 manual is much better for power though as a manual.

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

A lot of people talking crap about the Camaro in here, seem to be completely unaware that it now handles as well as a BMW M3.

You referring to my post?

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Talking handling in terms of >3,500 lb luxury cars doesn't impress most people around here.

The last gen was also comparable to the M3 in terms of performance, I drove a '14 SS and if you gave me any Camaro free and clear it'd be listed for sale by sundown. I'd be surprised if the new one changed my mind. If I'm carrying around that much weight it might as well come with 4 doors.



I wouldn't say it's a bad car, just different strokes and all that. Everyone here who bought an 86 could have easily walked across the street and driven home in a Camaro, we simply aren't the target audience.

Oh I don't disagree with you. I have no interest in owning one. I've never owned a car that weighed over 3000 lbs and have no intention of changing that any time soon.

Originally Posted by Jen

Having owned a Camaro for two years, if you like your BRZ/FRS, you won't like the Camaro.

Plus- it looks good and it has a lot of storage and you can take passengers, people love the car and it gets tons of attention (mine is white with orange racing stripes)
Negatives- can't see out of it, you feel like you are in a tank and your passenger is in a bunker, hard to back out, doesn't handle well, can't feel the power, it feels like it can't get out of its own way, even with 325 hp

I'm looking to sell my 2014 Camaro. I only put 3k miles on it. I've put 12k on my WRX in under a year, so if I like a car, I will drive it.

Funny thing, I own a manual. The auto actually feels like it has some power. Test drive both. You will be surprised. The V8 manual is much better for power though as a manual.

It's great to know an owner's perspective, however your Camaro has very, very little in common dynamically with a 2016 Camaro. It may look similar but is built on an entirely different platform. Apples to Oranges. The facts are that for it's weight and size it's top of the class for handling.

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

You referring to my post?

Beats me man

[vh_supra26]

A leaked ordering guide has revealed that the 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 will brutalize its rear tyres thanks to 650 hp and 650 lb-ft (881 Nm) of torque.

Uncovered by the crew at the Camaro 6 forums, the ordering guide shows that the 2017 ZL1's 6.2-liter supercharged LT4 V8 engine boasts exactly the same horsepower and torque figures as the Corvette Z06 but is 57 hp shy of the Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat. These numbers are 10 hp and 10 lb-ft up on what was previously reported for the ZL1.

While the Hellcat may continue to lead the muscle car horsepower game, it isn't all that usable on a race circuit. The new Camaro ZL1 by comparison has the ingredients to be more capable on a technical track thanks to higher downforce figures and a near 500 pound weight advantage.

Beyond the vehicle's engine, the new Camaro ZL1 is offered as standard with a six-speed manual with active rev-matching but can also be ordered with GM's 10-speed automatic transmission. Grip comes courtesy of 285/30ZR20 Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires at the front and 305/30 section shoes at the rear.

Considering how capable the new ZL1 should be on track, we can't imagine where Chevy will go with the next Z/28.

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/08/ord...chevrolet.html