Toyota Supra Alleged Revival: 2015.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

I have no issue with the new Supra being a hybrid sports car. I just hope it doesn't look like the FT-HS. That thing looks a bit dated, like it's stuck in 2007 when it debuted. It just doesn't look like a very pretty car, imo.

it looks like a GT-R fighter to me

[protpibe]

Whatever it is, I just hope they don't brand it a Scion in North America.

[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

I have no issue with the new Supra being a hybrid sports car. I just hope it doesn't look like the FT-HS. That thing looks a bit dated, like it's stuck in 2007 when it debuted. It just doesn't look like a very pretty car, imo.

It is a old concept, but I think they maybe able to put it off if they are basing a new Supra on the FT-HS. Even if a new Supra were to be based on it I believe Toyota would heavily updated it. Pretty much like what they did with the LFA. I think the car would look a lot better with a facelift / new front end. A more production ready interior and lastly door mounted mirrors.

Recall the original 2005 LF-A concept VS the 2007 LF-A II concept VS the 2010 production LFA.

[vh_supra26]

Toyota confirms performance concept car for Detroit, could point to next-generation Supra

A replacement for the Toyota Supra could be shown in concept car form at the Detroit motor show in January.

Toyota has confirmed to Autocar that a new performance-based concept will be seen in Detroit, but declined to comment on whether that concept would point towards a new Supra.

The new concept will be designed by Toyota's Calty studio, which has contributed to a number of Lexus, Scion and Toyota designs in the past but has not worked on a Supra project before.

However, a story posted on Autoblog suggests the concept will indeed be Supra-based, and that high-level Toyota officials plan to "shock the world" with a new Supra concept. A production version is likely to follow.

This won't be the first time a Supra replacement has been previewed. In 2007 the manufacturer showed its FT-HS concept at the Detroit motor show. That concept was also designed by Calty, and reportedly featured a 395bhp hybrid powertrain, which allowed the FT-HS to reach 60mph in around four seconds.

http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-new...it-367034.aspx

[n2oinferno]

I suppose I shouldn't have said I hope it doesn't look like the FT-HS. I don't care if it shares a similar shape, but it's an old design, much like the early LFA concept (which also isn't that great looking imo) versus the radically different production version.

[Levi]

New Supra is coming, but it still does not tell us yet which of both cars, Toyota Supra or Lexus SC has its chassis co-developed with BMW (M?). Do not forget the Lexus RC-F, also heading to detroit with first teaser already on the web.

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

And then there was that 1 day shitstorm about the FRS/GT86 actually receiving the Celica badge out of baseless assumptions.

1 day? I remember arguing that on this forum with oldskooltoys for like half of 2010, lol.






And I don't understand Toyota's strategy here. How do go from a $25k entry level sportscar and jump all the way to a $60K+ hybrid supercar. Where is the bridge the gap sportscar at 35-45k? You have to offer the people who bought a FRS something to move up to when they trade in. Most people who are buying $25k entry level sportscars aren't going to be able to turn around and drop 60 large on a supra but they could stretch and make the payments on a 370Z/V8 Mustang/STi/EVO.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

And I don't understand Toyota's strategy here. How do go from a $25k entry level sportscar and jump all the way to a $60K+ hybrid supercar. Where is the bridge the gap sportscar at 35-45k? You have to offer the people who bought a FRS something to move up to when they trade in. Most people who are buying $25k entry level sportscars aren't going to be able to turn around and drop 60 large on a supra but they could stretch and make the payments on a 370Z/V8 Mustang/STi/EVO.

how do we know it will cost $60k+. when the FT-HS was first unveiled Toyota said a production version could cost $45k.

but lets say it will be $60k, thats still a lot cheaper than the GT-R and most likely the upcoming hybrid NSX and R36 (also rumored to go hybrid).

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by Levi

New Supra is coming, but it still does not tell us yet which of both cars, Toyota Supra or Lexus SC has its chassis co-developed with BMW (M?). Do not forget the Lexus RC-F, also heading to detroit with first teaser already on the web.

from what i understand the RC/RC-F uses the same platform as the IS/IS-F/GS/Crown.

rumor on CL is that the LF-LC (SC successor) will be built on the next gen 2015 LS platform. the car will be called the Lexus LC and will be a $100k+ car.

the "new Supra" seems likely to be co-developed with BMW.

[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

I suppose I shouldn't have said I hope it doesn't look like the FT-HS. I don't care if it shares a similar shape, but it's an old design, much like the early LFA concept (which also isn't that great looking imo) versus the radically different production version.

I do agreed that the front end of the FT-HS is dated and ugly. But I like side profile and interior layout.

I can't wait to see what they have in store for us at Detroit

[quik1987]

[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by gymratter

how do we know it will cost $60k+. when the FT-HS was first unveiled Toyota said a production version could cost $45k.

but lets say it will be $60k, thats still a lot cheaper than the GT-R and most likely the upcoming hybrid NSX and R36 (also rumored to go hybrid).

Back in 2006 Edmunds reported "In spite of the FT-HS being only a concept vehicle, Toyota's desired starting price for such a vehicle is stated to be in the mid $30,000 range."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_FT-HS

So I guess given the rate of inflation $40k price range sounds right.

http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

[vh_supra26]

Back in 2007, Toyota unveiled the FT-HS concept. When I saw it up close, I was struck by its sharp lines and compact, athletic stance. It always seemed to be in the back of my mind.



I see a lot of the FT-HS's underlying form in the FR-S, but the beveled edges have been rounded and smoothed over. I still think the FR-S is an attractive little coupe, but imagine if the FT's lines had survived. Yowzah!

http://www.edmunds.com/scion/fr-s/20...s-origins.html

[quik1987]

Can someone shop a production ready FT-HS?

Door handles, side mirrors, part lines, normal exhaust, normal wheels, etc?