Toyota Supra Alleged Revival: 2015.

[industrial]

It's right there in the article more or less. The Supra will probably be the Toyota twin of the new BMW z4. Another set of twins based on a stretched and convertible ft86 platform. BMW doing the suspension tuning and Toyota/Subaru providing the drivetrain and chassis. Sounds like an exciting development.

[Mandy]

Am I the only one who thinks they all fit the new Scion image that they're thinking about moving to? They all look freakishly FR-S inspired.





Let me just make the purists quiver a little bit:
"Scion Supra"

[CBR600RR]

nice!!! are they ever similar to the GT86

[supragoods]

WOULD HAVE LIKE THIS BETTER (IT WOULD HAVE THIS MORE POWER LOL)

[fender9530]

Looks like an FRS to me. Pretty cool.

[supra2nv]

miss my supra so much

[BRZPDX]

Supra's price point may be too high for Scion, but I know they are trying to up there prices on all their vehicle line up. Maybe the Supra will be there "super car" for Scion. But I really hope there is going to be a dealer option to change the emblem to Toyota or else everyone is going to be swapping them out.

[Mandy]

Originally Posted by BRZPDX

But I really hope there is going to be a dealer option to change the emblem to Toyota or else everyone is going to be swapping them out.

Here's what it sounds like to Toyota:

Originally Posted by BRZPDX

Make sure it's a Scion so I can give you more money by buying Toyota badges.

Maybe they'll pull a GM and carry it under multiple brands.

[Sasquachulator]

those last 2 images are chops of the first FT86 concept aren't they?

[Burrcold]

All of those renderings were from when the 86 was in development. It's just stupid magazines thinking it was the Supra.

[Umbie]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

All of those renderings were from when the 86 was in development. It's just stupid magazines thinking it was the Supra.

Correct. The Supra had its own concept development (which is still apparently in the works):

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

some day hopefully i'll own 2 mk4's those were the best the ever made and never will manage to fill that shoe. especially with the v160 gear box and that beastly 2jzgte

[M-17]

Here's a render for BMW's and Toyota's new concept hybrid sports car.

BMW-Toyota Sports Car Taking Shape
Expect Hybrid-Assisted Power, Different Sheetmetal, Tokyo Show Concept Debut

By Peter Lyon | May 17, 2013 - Motor Trend



When BMW and Toyota announced their intention earlier this year to produce a jointly developed, midsize sports car, it took some industry watchers by surprise. You can certainly argue Toyota needs help building up its performance portfolio, but you can't say the same for the gang from Munich, which already has a garage full of Ultimate Driving Machines.

It all starts to make sense when you look closer at the budding BMW-Toyota tie-up, which began in late 2011. It's the sort of mutually beneficial relationship that is starting to become more commonplace in the industry. "Toyota is strong in environment-friendly hybrids and fuel cells… I believe BMW's strength is developing sports cars," said Toyota boss Akio Toyoda in January. "I get so excited thinking about the cars that will result from this relationship." So do we, Toyoda-san, so do we.

So while jointly developed diesels, fuel cells, and the latest lithium battery and hybrid tech likely are more exciting from a corporate perspective, enthusiasts are salivating about the sports car. Looking at the existing Toyota-BMW lineups, an upscale sports coupe makes the most sense. It could possibly signal the return of the Supra and fill yet another niche in the BMW portfolio as a stand-alone coupe different in mission and positioning than the Z4 or the soon-to-arrive 4 Series and i8 plug-in hybrid sports car. A source close to Toyota tells us that by the time of the official announcement in January, the two companies had already conducted feasibility studies and development was well underway.

"When BMW announced in December 2011 that it would supply a new clean diesel engine to Toyota, the jointly developed sports car project had already begun," says our insider. The person who green-lighted this project? You guessed it: Toyoda, the same exec responsible for green-lighting the Lexus LFA and Toyota GT86. The man loves his sports cars.

We also hear the engineer charged with spearheading this new coupe is none other than GT86 chief engineer Tetsuya Tada. According to our sources, Tada has already visited BMW multiple times in the past year or so. He said in a March interview on Toyota's official U.K. blog that he was planning to head to Munich after the 2013 Geneva Motor Show to sit down with BMW execs over some beer and bratwurst. "I am hoping for a synergy effect with BMW that will result in a product that none of us could have imagined; something more than anyone expects. I would like that to be something like a sports car," Tada said in the interview. "I would even go so far as to say that for the collaboration to work we have to bring a product which exceeds all these expectations."

We don't expect the BMW-Toyota sports car to use the 2.0-liter flat-four found in the GT86 and Subaru BRZ. A BMW I-4 engine is more likely (though a Toyota-sourced I-4 is possible) and would necessitate significant modifications to the GT86 platform expected to underpin the car -- a task that would fall to BMW. The platform would also likely have to be stretched to bring it into the midsize category. There's an outside chance a BMW platform is being used, but given Tada's extensive involvement in the project, it's a long shot.

Naturally aspirated, supercharged, and turbocharged versions are reportedly being considered, but atmospheric induction is the most likely because it probably will be paired with electric motors. Our source tells us Toyota has been working on an all-wheel-drive GT86 equipped with front in-wheel motors and that this setup could make it into the new BMW-Toyota sports car. Additionally, we hear the BMW and Toyota products will have significantly different sheetmetal, unlike the 86/FR-S/BRZ. A speculative artist rendering of what the Toyota version could look like is depicted here. A concept (or concepts) is expected to be shown later this year at the 2013 Tokyo Motor Show. The GT86 took two years to go from concept to production, but with the basic platform already finished, the time to market for this BMW-Toyota sports car could be shorter.

Thoughts?

[DarkSunrise]

Sharp looking design. It's like an evolution on the looks of the RX-8. My only criticism is the hood looks like it comes up high before meeting with the A-pillar.