thinking of hks supercharger, what else? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

tjohnson104 · 01-20-2015, 06:41 PM

so I am looking at possible buying a used hks supercharger. I know nothing about the entire world of turbo and superchargers. I have tried my best to dig for answers. But I guess what I really need to know is if I buy it, do I need to purchase any other parts or needed components? Or is it as simple as buying the kit and hooking it up? I do not want to get a tune because that would cost more money, but I know it will just unlock more power. Can i add a supercharger on the stock tune and expect everything to run fine or will I get issues?

TemeCal · 01-20-2015, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tjohnson104

so I am looking at possible buying a used hks supercharger. I know nothing about the entire world of turbo and superchargers. I have tried my best to dig for answers. But I guess what I really need to know is if I buy it, do I need to purchase any other parts or needed components? Or is it as simple as buying the kit and hooking it up? I do not want to get a tune because that would cost more money, but I know it will just unlock more power. Can i add a supercharger on the stock tune and expect everything to run fine or will I get issues?

I'm actually selling my car, and was just about to post my supercharger for sale. I have the Sprintex 210 + intercooler kit. If you're looking for a great supercharger for the street, you'd be very happy with this. If you're tracking your car, you may want to look into a centrifugal supercharger such as Jackson.

Freeman · 01-20-2015, 06:46 PM

You'll need to get it tuned. You can't force a bunch of air into the engine and not tune for it. You'll kill your engine.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 01-20-2015, 06:56 PM

100% has to be tuned, it is not an option.

tjohnson104 · 01-20-2015, 06:57 PM

if its the right price I would consider your sprintex

but so everybody out there running turbo and superchargers, they ALL have tunes? it doesnt matter what brand you have, it still needs to get a tune? like ecutek or something like that?

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 01-20-2015, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tjohnson104

if its the right price I would consider your sprintex

but so everybody out there running turbo and superchargers, they ALL have tunes? it doesnt matter what brand you have, it still needs to get a tune? like ecutek or something like that?

Yes you need a tune or else you will likely melt the internals immediately.

Cop · 01-20-2015, 07:25 PM

You'll probably want the wheels / tires to be able to handle the additional power on top of the tune.

jflogerzi · 01-20-2015, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tjohnson104

if its the right price I would consider your sprintex

but so everybody out there running turbo and superchargers, they ALL have tunes? it doesnt matter what brand you have, it still needs to get a tune? like ecutek or something like that?

Okay that kind of comment really shows you have not done enough reading. Please for the love of god, do it right, or risk blowing your engine. Got to pay to play and a engine rebuild is not cheap.

kbogarto · 01-20-2015, 08:04 PM

I good tune might be the single most important thing for FI. I would get a catch can too. Not mandatory but a good idea

weederr33 · 01-20-2015, 08:42 PM

I'd advise looking through the FI threads. Especially the ones relating the the type of SC or TC you're interested in. But just to reiterate what others have said, you WILL need a tune. Plus, depending on who you go with, they may offer their own base tune. Or you can go with someone like Delicious Tuning, or OpenFlashTablet and get a decent tune.

TemeCal · 01-20-2015, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tjohnson104

if its the right price I would consider your sprintex

but so everybody out there running turbo and superchargers, they ALL have tunes? it doesnt matter what brand you have, it still needs to get a tune? like ecutek or something like that?

Completely understand! I have it for sale in this thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81045

I'm asking $3,000 shipped for the intercooled version ($4700 retail).

HaDDeS · 01-21-2015, 01:14 AM

Adding more power before anything else is the usual common mistake.

Before you add this SC, make sure you revise the cooling, the braking, the suspension, and tires.

For the SC, of course you need a tune, and preferably a custom tune on Dyno, this is the only guarantee to get a proper solution for you car, but it won't be cheap.

The kit + clean install, and tuning by a competent garage, could be anything between 6 to 10 k$

tjohnson104 · 01-21-2015, 05:40 AM

yeahhhhhh... way out of my league now. I thought I could get away if I bought a nice priced booster and then I was set.

maybe someday down the road then! thanks everybody for the input on what it takes to make it all happen!

Alltezza · 01-21-2015, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tjohnson104

yeahhhhhh... way out of my league now. I thought I could get away if I bought a nice priced booster and then I was set.

maybe someday down the road then! thanks everybody for the input on what it takes to make it all happen!

Yeah, I'm glad you learned something new! And I'm glad this community saved you A LOT and I mean....A LOT of trouble.

01-20-2015, 06:41 PM	#1
tjohnson104 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: brz Location: USA Posts: 338 Thanks: 29 Thanked 92 Times in 54 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	thinking of hks supercharger, what else? so I am looking at possible buying a used hks supercharger. I know nothing about the entire world of turbo and superchargers. I have tried my best to dig for answers. But I guess what I really need to know is if I buy it, do I need to purchase any other parts or needed components? Or is it as simple as buying the kit and hooking it up? I do not want to get a tune because that would cost more money, but I know it will just unlock more power. Can i add a supercharger on the stock tune and expect everything to run fine or will I get issues?

01-20-2015, 08:04 PM	#9
kbogarto Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ limited WRB Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 120 Thanks: 135 Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I good tune might be the single most important thing for FI. I would get a catch can too. Not mandatory but a good idea __________________ 92 240sx (sold), 03 350z (sold), 13 BRZ (AVO turbo)

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tjohnson104 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: brz Location: USA Posts: 338 Thanks: 29 Thanked 92 Times in 54 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	if its the right price I would consider your sprintex but so everybody out there running turbo and superchargers, they ALL have tunes? it doesnt matter what brand you have, it still needs to get a tune? like ecutek or something like that?

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Cop Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: 2013 FRS Location: Bay Area Posts: 471 Thanks: 262 Thanked 170 Times in 121 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You'll probably want the wheels / tires to be able to handle the additional power on top of the tune.

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weederr33 Airborne at your service Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 6,286 Thanks: 4,512 Thanked 5,509 Times in 2,902 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I'd advise looking through the FI threads. Especially the ones relating the the type of SC or TC you're interested in. But just to reiterate what others have said, you WILL need a tune. Plus, depending on who you go with, they may offer their own base tune. Or you can go with someone like Delicious Tuning, or OpenFlashTablet and get a decent tune.

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HaDDeS Touge worship Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: Forester STi SG9 Location: Sendai , JAPAN Posts: 112 Thanks: 26 Thanked 235 Times in 57 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Adding more power before anything else is the usual common mistake. Before you add this SC, make sure you revise the cooling, the braking, the suspension, and tires. For the SC, of course you need a tune, and preferably a custom tune on Dyno, this is the only guarantee to get a proper solution for you car, but it won't be cheap. The kit + clean install, and tuning by a competent garage, could be anything between 6 to 10 k$

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tjohnson104 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: brz Location: USA Posts: 338 Thanks: 29 Thanked 92 Times in 54 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	yeahhhhhh... way out of my league now. I thought I could get away if I bought a nice priced booster and then I was set. maybe someday down the road then! thanks everybody for the input on what it takes to make it all happen!

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