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Old 01-20-2015, 03:05 PM   #15
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I would move it back on a cage to make a little more room for tall people. Also a full cage would be a race car and have no interior so I don't have to worry about getting the panel in. Also the head liner comes into play, with it in if I move the hoop back it also has to come down so its a trade off in terms of distance from the drivers head. I'm not sure what the roof looks like without the liner but its a safe guess there will be more room to play with. Placing the hoop is a game of trade offs and it really comes down to how the car will be used.

Not sure what photo you want, with the hoop landing here these is a regulation about how far I can lean the bar back. Is that really going to be enforced on a street car with a roll bar, no. However I like to follow the applicable parts of rule books when I can.
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Cantrell Motorsports bolt-in rollbar

I've have an off the shelf roll bar from Cantrell Motorsports. It is a bolt-in, but you have to weld the front mounting plates (with built-in nuts) to the rear bulkhead.

It is TIG welded 1 3/4" .095 4130 Chromoly tube. The tubes use 4130 chromoly roll bar interlock joints.

Cost $1995. Installation can be up to 10-12 hours depending one how clean/stock you want the interior.



After a lot of looking around and considering a custom bar, I chose the Cantrell bar because of the balance of strength, street usability, weight and ability to remove the rear diagonal bar. The latter is important to me for a couple reasons: 1) can easily carry track wheels, tools, jack, etc to track; 2) can have a quiet and nice looking interior for street use.

I went with non-fixedback seats because I want easy access to the rear for stowing things on trips and around town. They are Recaro Sportsters which I like very much; I have them in another car as well.

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Here is a local guy who drifts' setup:http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=101
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I've have an off the shelf roll bar from Cantrell Motorsports. It is a bolt-in, but you have to weld the front mounting plates (with built-in nuts) to the rear bulkhead.

It is TIG welded 1 3/4" .095 4130 Chromoly tube. The tubes use 4130 chromoly roll bar interlock joints.

Cost $1995. Installation can be up to 10-12 hours depending one how clean/stock you want the interior.

After a lot of looking around and considering a custom bar, I chose the Cantrell bar because of the balance of strength, street usability, weight and ability to remove the rear diagonal bar. The latter is important to me for a couple reasons: 1) can easily carry track wheels, tools, jack, etc to track; 2) can have a quiet and nice looking interior for street use.

I went with non-fixedback seats because I want easy access to the rear for stowing things on trips and around town. They are Recaro Sportsters which I like very much; I have them in another car as well.
Thanks for the new wish list, that looks incredible. Love the seats, how do you have them mounted?
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Thanks for the new wish list, that looks incredible. Love the seats, how do you have them mounted?
Cantrell made custom mounting brackets for use with Recaro's sliders. I believe they have a template to make more brackets.
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I am getting more serious into tracking the FR-S and want to have seats and a harness which I know will require, at a minimum, a roll bar. However, I am still not 100% on whether this will become the future race car in my garage or if there might be an event in the near (~1 year) future where I would sell it. Therefore I wouldn't want something that is permanently in the car and could be taken out if I sell it for normal street use. Is there anything out there that is decent or should I just wait it out a while longer and see where life takes me so I can just get a full cage/better roll bar?
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I am getting more serious into tracking the FR-S and want to have seats and a harness which I know will require, at a minimum, a roll bar. However, I am still not 100% on whether this will become the future race car in my garage or if there might be an event in the near (~1 year) future where I would sell it. Therefore I wouldn't want something that is permanently in the car and could be taken out if I sell it for normal street use. Is there anything out there that is decent or should I just wait it out a while longer and see where life takes me so I can just get a full cage/better roll bar?
The Cantrell bar I mentioned above can be removed. The welded in plate can just be left there. I've had bolt-in bars in cars that I later put back to stock. There is always evidenced of the bar (holes/plates/etc), but they are hidden so no-one cares. Never had a problem reselling the car.
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The Cantrell bar I mentioned above can be removed. The welded in plate can just be left there. I've had bolt-in bars in cars that I later put back to stock. There is always evidenced of the bar (holes/plates/etc), but they are hidden so no-one cares. Never had a problem reselling the car.
Gotcha, i like the sound of that. Is it something that a full cage could be added to in the future or completely different things?
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Gotcha, i like the sound of that. Is it something that a full cage could be added to in the future or completely different things?
IMO, while you could add on to a roll bar to create a cage, I believe a cage should be fitted as close to the sheet metal as possible so is a custom build on a stripped car.
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Has anyone built a race cage removing the headliner and dash and willing to share detailed photos?

We ran a Cusco type cage last year but even with a low riding seat our helmets would contact the halo bar on left handers.

Rules say we have to run a dash so we'll put something back in but trying to get design ideas.

Concept will also include cutting through the firewall to mount to the backside of the strut towers. Idea being if we wreck (hope not) we can just clip the front and not shorten the wheel base.

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Has anyone built a race cage removing the headliner and dash and willing to share detailed photos?

We ran a Cusco type cage last year but even with a low riding seat our helmets would contact the halo bar on left handers.

Rules say we have to run a dash so we'll put something back in but trying to get design ideas.

Concept will also include cutting through the firewall to mount to the backside of the strut towers. Idea being if we wreck (hope not) we can just clip the front and not shorten the wheel base.

Any comments or suggestions?
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Beautiful!

Any objections if we decide to copy? We'll be sure to give credit once the build is complete.

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they seem to have all been built for the FIA certification, just search for it and you'll see the rules and you will build one that looks just like these.
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