So... is it sluggish?

[grst1]

100% agree with above. Amazing amount of toque down low. Haven't pushed it beyond 5K yet but I don't need it for normal daily driving! My '10 STI was more sluggish with power delivery with turbo lag and stuff. BRZ is not fast but quick and not underpowered at all.

[Spaceywilly]

Another trend I've noticed is that people who complain it about it being sluggish seem to always be driving the AT. Just sayin...

[Chee-Hu]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

Another trend I've noticed is that people who complain it about it being sluggish seem to always be driving the AT. Just sayin...

I would have to agree.

[ashtray]

6th gear on highway at 70mph, was able to accelerate up hill with barely any throttle. No need to downshift - so even at low rpms, it still moves easily (and 80mph comes on WAY too easily if you're just coasting and not paying close attention!)

[kyolml]

Ok, here people said it's not sluggish, it's true it's not sluggish as it's NA and it moves no matter what RPM you are at. The gas pedal is accurate and not like an on/off switch as the Genesis Coupe's.

But I think what the OP asking is does it feel fast. No, absolutely feels slow in the straight line, doesn't feel as fast as a camry I4 (push in the back) to me, i think because of less weight transfer and lower CoG. It definetly bothers me as I was expecting it might be at least somewhere better than an Integra GSR, but it doesn't feel that way, no where close to an Integra Type-R in the feel of explosiveness.

But that's OK, just try to put it in sideway most of time, then you will forget the power deficit

BTW, i drove AT with M gate, Sport on, VSC off

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by Mike Sino

I test drove the AT FRS and it felt very sluggish to me

I test drove the AT FR-S and it felt fine to me. There was even a ~200 lb guy in the passenger seat. I too was worried about it not having enough power but after my test drive, and considering that I will be getting the MT and driving by myself 99% of the time (always alone T_T), I'm pretty sure I will be satisfied. But as Quik said, you will have to be the judge of that.

[Indestruct]

I'm having no problems merging onto the freeway. I try to keep my RPM's below 4k for now... but I've gone past 5 a couple of times. I've only taken it to 85 mph so far. I'm not complaining. For such a slow car I'm sure getting a lot of compliments

[csaba]

That's sounds good.
Could you tell me what's the rpm at 60 miles/h in 6 gear

Thanks

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

I test drove an MT today and it felt a lot torquier than my 02 WRX at low RPMs. I didn't get a chance to wring it out since it wasn't broken in yet but even keeping it below 4k and just blasting around the back roads by my dealer I thought it was great, but that's just me. I defintiely prefer the power delivery of the BRZ to my WRX, even if it is less power you don't have to wait for it like you do in the WRX so it feels faster. If you want straight line speed it doesn't have it but it seems to have the perfect power and delivery for twisty back roads.

Yep, that's what surprised me too coming from turbo cars. I feared it might be like my turbo 4 cylinder without the turbo but it seems a lot more powerful and responsive down low with a smooth and linear flow of power - just as I was hoping.

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by Indestruct

I'm having no problems merging onto the freeway. I try to keep my RPM's below 4k for now... but I've gone past 5 a couple of times. I've only taken it to 85 mph so far. I'm not complaining. For such a slow car I'm sure getting a lot of compliments

Yeah, from what I've heard, you're going to need to get it in the 5-7k range to have power to pass.

[Indestruct]

Originally Posted by csaba

That's sounds good.
Could you tell me what's the rpm at 60 miles/h in 6 gear

Thanks

I think it's at 3k from around 60-65... for the MT, I don't know anything about the AT

[YaX]

Originally Posted by kyolml

Ok, here people said it's not sluggish, it's true it's not sluggish as it's NA and it moves no matter what RPM you are at. The gas pedal is accurate and not like an on/off switch as the Genesis Coupe's.

But I think what the OP asking is does it feel fast. No, absolutely feels slow in the straight line, doesn't feel as fast as a camry I4 (push in the back) to me, i think because of less weight transfer and lower CoG. It definetly bothers me as I was expecting it might be at least somewhere better than an Integra GSR, but it doesn't feel that way, no where close to an Integra Type-R in the feel of explosiveness.

But that's OK, just try to put it in sideway most of time, then you will forget the power deficit

BTW, i drove AT with M gate, Sport on, VSC off

Well, let me see here...
"The feel of explosiveness" for an Integra Type-R... hmph. A quick google search shows it did 0-60 in the mid 6's and a quarter mile in the mid to high 14's. Yah, that's really explosive. How the hell is that any different from the BRZ?

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by YaX

Well, let me see here...
"The feel of explosiveness" for an Integra Type-R... hmph. A quick google search shows it did 0-60 in the mid 6's and a quarter mile in the mid to high 14's. Yah, that's really explosive. How the hell is that any different from the BRZ?

VTEC yo?

[ashtray]

Originally Posted by Indestruct

I think it's at 3k from around 60-65... for the MT, I don't know anything about the AT

Depends how quick you want to pass. Like cross into oncoming traffic to pass? Yeah - wind it out! On the highway I kept it in 6th and was able to accelerate casually. Plenty of torque. The car isn't slow.